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Posted 11/7/2007 11:42 AM (GMT 0)
I'm 5 months post surgery. DaVinci with nerve sparing by Patel.  Mostly continent for 3 and a half months now.

Cialis and viagra do nothing for me.  And I don't think it is due to it being counterfeit meds, since I bought these via traditional pharmacy channels.

But anyone else out there have the experience that these meds do nothing?  Its discouraging.  I was hoping to be one of the exceptions regarding ED, but I'm not.  Flat as a pancake unless I use the pump.

I'd appreciate hearing from others about how long it took after surgery to get over ED, or perhaps it is something I'll never get over?  A few here seem to be lucky and have no ED. Others are helped by viagra.  When is this gonna end?

Posted 11/7/2007 11:59 AM (GMT 0)
Yep, in the same boat you're in, they have done absolutely nothing for me, apparently my system is not ready for an erection yet. I'm 6+ months post surgery and my doc says that its not unusual for them not to work, different strokes for different folks.....I think on my next dr visit I'm going to ask for trimix and try the shots.....some of my friends use that and say it works well and there is very little pain associated with giving the shot. Worth a try, this other stuff sure isn't working. good luck. jwb.
Posted 11/7/2007 12:46 PM (GMT 0)
I am a 2-year veteran of DaVinci with Patel. I did not experience good results with Viagra either. I never tried Cialis. I was encouraged by Patel's associates to start the shots (tri-mix) after six months, but was skittish. I wish now that I had just done it when they first recommended it. I waited over a year after surgery. The shots are not awful as I had imagined they would be and I now have erections that enable penetration. I think that usage of tri-mix over time is starting to stimulate the nerves to do more on their own. I don't experience sex exactly the way I once did, but I have something worthwhile. If you haven't tried the shots, I strongly recommend them.
Posted 11/7/2007 1:26 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, I have the same result. It has been a year and the Viagra has done nothing for me. If you check the statistics ED medication for prostatectomy men only work in about 30% of the cases. While it may not produce an erection it does promote blood flow so I still take two or three a week. I just ordered Levitra as there are some indications that it may have a better result so I thought I would give it a try. I am using injections and they do give me a satisfactory erection. You may wnat to discuss injections with your urologist. If you are motivated enough to get pass the fear of the needle then you will enjoy the results.

Tamu
Posted 11/7/2007 8:00 PM (GMT 0)
I am an eight month veteran of the same surgery.  Incontenance is about gone. Have been on all three meds and the pump.   Started Trimix nine injections ago ( two per week).  I am in the process of fine tuning the correct quantity trimix to use for about a 30 to 45 minute erection.  You can do the same and begin enjoying once again the wholesome feeling of an erection :-) , like heaven on earth.  You never know what you had until you miss it.  Let us know about your progress and most of all be patient.   It will happen.  :-)

Geon

Posted 11/7/2007 10:00 PM (GMT 0)

I had incontinence for a few weeks after the catheter was removed, then only occasional dribbles with physical straining.

None of the oral meds (Viagra/Cialis/Levitra) worked for me to achieve a sufficient erection for intercourse.

I have been on penile injection meds (Quad Mix) from a  compounding lab in NJ.  It was difficult and uncomfortable to give myself injections, but I read about spring-loaded auto-injectors and purchased one for $20 from Palco Lab.  It works much better for me.   

An apt quote for me is from Tolstoy's novel, War and Peace:

"Time and patience. Patience and time"

Posted 11/7/2007 11:43 PM (GMT 0)
My surgery was on 8-14 I have tried Viagra and Lavitra sparingly. Neither has been successful at this time, however I started using the pump about 10 days ago. I am using it to pull the blood into the penis. I am not trying to keep it in there with a ring yet. I also have not taken either of the meds before using the pump. As far as using the pump or taking meds everything I've read says neither works unless you are sexually excited. Without meds or pump today we were able to reach about 65 to 75% erection with manual stimulation. I intend to continue using the pump and after my next Dr. visit 11-28 I intend to start using the pump with the meds and see if this will give me the results we are all looking for. With the results I had today I believe it will. Just maybe I will not need to use either if things keep improving. One thing more, I am not going to go the injection route as long as I can see some results no matter how slow it happens. I am leery of Peyronies or scar tissue. Of course everyone has their own decision to make. Good luck and God Bless, Uncle Dan
Posted 11/8/2007 1:10 AM (GMT 0)

uncledan said...
I am not going to go the injection route as long as I can see some results no matter how slow it happens. I am leery of Peyronies or scar tissue. Of course everyone has their own decision to make.

Uncledan, I am of the same philosophy.  I won't go the injection route yet because of concern about Peyronies. Like you said, that is an individual decision and there is no right or wrong answer. 

For me, 14 weeks out of surgery, neither Levitra nor Cialis is effective... yet.  My surgeon told me it may take quite some time for the nerves to heal and not to worry too much.  It could take one year or more.  I am using the VED as well for rehabilitation and I am happy with the results.

Incontinence problems have nearly disappeared except for some occasional stress incontinence in extreme situations.

So... I can't complain.  No one would listen anyway!   tongue

All the best,

Idaho

Posted 11/8/2007 3:27 AM (GMT 0)

Does anyone have any issues with self stimulation to obtain erections or fullness in penile rehab either with pill stimulants, muse or trimix?

I have beeen doing this throughout the eight months and it bothers me for I feel it is not right but also know it must be done to achieve an end.  With my wife it does not bother me but alone it seems wrong.

What are your thoughts?

Posted 11/9/2007 3:12 AM (GMT 0)
Hey Geon,

PCa treatment affects every facet of our lives. The physical healing and rehab requires us to do things that in the past may not have seemed "right". Rehab requires stimulation in order to get the nerves to heal right and the blood supply to the needed parts of the penis to avoid atrophy. So given that we will stimulate some way, doing it alone or with somebody doesn't make any difference.

We can use this experience to improve our relationships and heal them too. (If they need healing - and mine sure did.) If you feel bad about self stimulation alone then talk to your wife about it. See how she feels about it. We found that this experience was a good excuse to talk about sexual things that we had never discussed before. We both we a little surprised that our assumptions about each other were not very valid. And that after 50+ years of marraige.

My own opinion about self stimulation being "wrong" is that if God didn't want me to do it, He would not have made it feel so good. But that is just my opinion.....

Jim
Posted 11/9/2007 3:57 AM (GMT 0)

Thanks Jim.

I have accepted stimulation and my wife and I both work at it.  I continue to stimulate myself as often as I can (in the mood) but I do stay away from climax and feel like this should be shared.  It just does not feel right alone, although on occasion, you are right as it does feel very refreshing and fit. Appreciate your support and letting me know how you feel about such things that are not normally discussed.  My wife is a great supporter and a great help but when we are togrther I feel bad for her because I do not get erect except of course when I take TRIMIX.  In between, we keep the blood flowing.  The intimacy is good.

What erver will happen will happen.  Without my wife I think I would just give up and accept.

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