Is there a technique for errections after PCa?

After doing some reading on various web forums (including this one) is learned that some Men are squeezing their abdomens to force blood into the groin area.  I've been trying this over the last couple of days (along with a 25mg Viagra) with some success.  I've managed some soft wood, but hey it's large than 1 inch.  YIPPEE.  I was starting to wounder if I'd ever see that again.

Last night my wife and I are using this technique and are suprised that it's almost hard enough to sort of use.... a high point. ... and then I urinate all over her.... a very low point    

Has anyone else run into this?

Learning to pass gas and not wet yourself was hard enough....

A few years from now I look back and laugh..... last night it was just such a let down.

Roger

Danman, for me personally, I will leak about a tablespoon at climax.  I look at it a thinner replacement for the ejaculate I lost from surgery...lol  Seriously, I would imagine, if you didn't tell her, than most women wouldn't even notice.  Now oral sex would be a different matter, of course.  Leaking during normal intercourse shouldn't be a problem for most women.  If it is to the extent that a condom is demanded, then a good alternative is to use a small sized silicone penis ring, like comes in penis pump kits, to cut off the flow during sex. 

The aversion to urine is natural, I suppose, but shouldn't be.  Fresh urine is sterile and harmless.  Lots of doctors use it as a built-in sterile irrigation  during some bladder and other urinary tract surgeries. 

Roger G said...
I've just past the six month mark with little to do progress on the ED front. My Psa is next to nothing so I'm really happy. The ED now is something I can start to work on.


Hi Roger ,
The nerves are a very delicate part of our body and any kind of nerve would take a long time to heal regardless of where they located in the body.....i have heard of recovery to full potency from 2 months out to 24 months with nerve bundles spared.
I am at 10 months out , had open RP and just in the last 2 months after being aggressive with Meds and VED start seeing some serious progress, Mid Night erections not controlled but i am hoping at the 12 months mark i will be back to 100% firmness as well , even if i need to use oral meds.

You should bare in mind that your nerves been pushed and pulled on and it is an idividual recovery process...and it sure a slow one , so just be patient , practice and try the VED.
I also hear that th L-Arginine supplament is a helpful one , i also take Folgard daily (which is a vitamin B supplament to help heal and restore the nerves (however it is a prescription med , ask your Uro for it )

Good Luck and keep us posted

GB

Roger, do you have a link to a description of the abdominal squeeze technique, please?

I had RRP (non-nerve-sparing) six weeks ago, and while still a little tender in those parts, I'm ready for another little adventure

I tried the milking-a-cow technique (with a little baby oil) and apart from a little extra length, it didn't do anything for me. Maybe no nerves at all has something to do with that.

The VED works well for me in getting it up, and I'm still working on getting it to stay up  The milking technique should have similar effects to the VED -- I gotta practice more

GBINAB -- thanks for the encouragement. I guess it's a good sign that we're in here worrying about ED -- there could be much more serious things to worry about.

I know that it's somewhere between a slim chance and no chance that I will ever have natural erections again. But nerves do grow back given time, and I'll do my best to encourage that -- and have fun trying.    Nerve regrowth is a slow process and it's important that we don't give up too soon -- let us all be glad and celebrate each little improvement we can gain.

I haven't lost any blood supply to the penis -- it's just that the nerves turning on my tap have a big gap in them. I opted for non-nerve-sparing because of the aggressive nature of my cancer (Gleason 9, since downgraded to 8), and didn't even ask for the nerve graft. There seem to be doubts about its effectiveness in any case.

I did some math. Before the operation I had sex about twice a week. This required that I have an erection for a total of 1.68 hours during the week. If you think that I'm cooking the figures here, you're right! As a percentage of my week, that is just one percent!  I can still have sex, still twice a week if I'm lucky, but now I need artificial aids. So that one percent is not completely lost, but the quality has changed -- and sometimes there are flops -- in both senses of the word!  But my overall quality of life has changed very little.

So for anybody else sweating over ED, do your own sums, and figure out what percentage of your week you actually need an erection. 

Ok the one quote I can still find comes from the following YANANOW mentor: http://www.yananow.net/Mentors/GlenL.htm#IV.  I am thinking of giving his erection scale to my doctor.

Basically it's the same push you used to empty your bladder prior to prostate surgery, assuming you had an enlarged prostate like me..... only slightly less or you will urinate

- Erections are still four point five to five without drugs, but I did get a five point five with the Levitra and more control. More control meaning, more dick control, the ability to breathe and maintain erection and extend the length of the orgasm. Orgasm now increased from between 5 seconds to 10 seconds all the way up to a good pleasant 15 to 25 seconds of absolute pleasure!

- The increased erection quality means little or no urine leakage in trying to maintain erection. You can concentrate on pleasuring her more instead of being mechanical and concentrating on your breathing and not leaking. With a lower quality erection, breathing and the slight push to maintain blood flow and erection are very tricky because if you don't breathe and inflate the penis just right; you leak urine. Even if the last thing that you do before jumping into bed is to take a wiz, after five minutes, there's more urine in your bladder and you have to be careful how you push to keep the blood flow to keep it up.

So all this means for me better erections, less or no urine leakage, better sex.