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Posted 2/10/2009 10:31 PM (GMT 0)

Hey fellow members of the PC Brotherhood. My question is can anyone recommend a diet that would be beneficial in preventing PC reoccurrance? I have already started drinking green tea, pomegranate juice, and soy milk everyday. I've eliminated red meat and regular milk from my diet. I eat at least one salad a day (yuck). Plenty of broccoli at least 3 to 4 times a week. I take vitamin D and omega 3 supplements once daily and try to soak up sunlight for 30 mins a couple of days a week when I'm off. I drink V8 every day. Eat almonds, and dark chocolate everyday. I eat fish (wild caught salmon) at least 1 or 2 times a week. I think that's it. If anyone can recommend something else I'm sure we'd all love to hear it. Thanks

Posted 2/10/2009 10:35 PM (GMT 0)

The thing that is so irriatating to me about this diesease is that there is no connection to diet etc...

There is anecctodal talk about meat, milk, etc...

 I think the diet angle is a farce.

 Scott

Posted 2/10/2009 11:10 PM (GMT 0)
My twopenneth of take on diet.
Whether a specific diet is delaying any progression is up for debate. However many people derive psychological benefit from the fact that they are at least doing 'something' rather than just sitting there and accepting what the doctors say with no input, and that alone must be worth a few credits. Perhaps if more people round the world considered what they ate then there would be possibly less obesity, healthier more active bodies, which in turn would perhaps reduce the susceptibility to a whole raft of ailments, and less strain on the tax dollar for repairing the damage of poor diet.
chris nz
Posted 2/11/2009 12:40 AM (GMT 0)
Got to agree with chris nz, the psychological boost of feeling you are being active in the battle can only help while the benefit of a great diet will certainly help in all aspects of your health.
Bill
Posted 2/11/2009 12:49 AM (GMT 0)
I am under the impression, that there is no way to directly prove a diet link to PC, being a shadow of a doubt. The diet and food choices described by Jersey above is a good one. I agree to, and I have been making major changes in my lifestyle and diet since PC, that a healthy diet is going to be good for our bodies, but unless this is undisputable proof, I don't think any diet change after a PC dx is going to change the outcome, severity, or reaccurance of cancer. If I am wrong on this point, please send links for me to study. It's never too late to make healthy changes, i.e. if you smoke, good time to give it up, if you are way too heavy, good time to lose weight, if you don't exercise, good time to at least start walking. My dealings with the PC for me, has been a serious wake up call, and I don't say this with any judgmental meaning to it, I am refering only to my self.

David
Posted 2/11/2009 2:21 AM (GMT 0)

I think there is some merrit to the diet angle. It's a well known fact that Asian men have the lowest instances of PC in the world but when they move to the U.S. their PC rates raise to reflect our PC rates. I know there are men who are vegetarians who get PC and there's no real scientific proof but hey it can't hurt. Like you guys have said at least I'm doing something. I don't go crazy. I still enjoy a good cigar but if there is anything to this diet thing I don't mind the changes I've made. I'm just looking for any additional suggestions as far as diet is concerned.

Posted 2/11/2009 9:11 AM (GMT 0)
MORE Blue Bell ice cream works for me. Its the old Quality of life versus Quanitity thing.
Posted 2/11/2009 12:12 PM (GMT 0)
There is a wonderful book that I would suggest to anyone that is going through this or any other cancer. I believe it is under $20.00 at Amazon.


Anticancer: A New Way of Life by David Servan-Schreiber
Posted 2/11/2009 12:14 PM (GMT 0)
Not wanting to make light of a serious subject . . . but:

Some of you may recall a discussion we had several months ago about "cheeseburgers . . ."

Simply put, my doc suggested less red meat. When asked about cheeseburgers he laughed and said cut them out.

A couple of weeks ago I was riding a chairlift with a (cancer free) buddy . . . when I told him about the link he said "I east lots of bacon cheeseburgers!"

Ahha I thought . . . therein lies the solution:

I had been forgoing the bacon!

(for what it is worth, I have made a serious, concsious effort to reduce my red meat consumption . . . while maintaining my quality of life!)

Cheers,
Rich
Posted 2/11/2009 12:49 PM (GMT 0)
My oncologist told me he really doesn't believe the cancer cells know what you're eating. I initally went a little "diet crazy", drove my wife nuts, and still had a PSA recurrence (I believe due to a positive margin). THat being said, less red meat, more veggies have got to be good for you regardless of PCa.

I do drink pommegranite juice every moning -- there ARE some studies out there on this (mostly funded by the folks who make pommegranit juice). I also find scotch to be theraputic--- maybe that's just the psychological boost I'm getting?
Posted 2/11/2009 1:22 PM (GMT 0)
sterd, I am quite sure that the scotch has the correctic theraputic balance and medicinal value, in particular if its a well aged single malt.
Posted 2/11/2009 2:54 PM (GMT 0)
Glenlivet does just fine in my medicine cabinet! wink
Posted 2/11/2009 4:08 PM (GMT 0)
Glenfiddish works just fine for me....  smilewinkgrin
Posted 2/11/2009 10:56 PM (GMT 0)
A friend brought back Edradour Scotch as a gift to Pete.....Check it out! ........BUT, Jersey, you are singing to the choir with me.....We do everything you do PLUS Tumeric and blueberries and no sugar. Pete has advanced cancer, but has held his PSA at about 0 .5 to 0 .6 for the past two years after the salvage surgery...I really think it is because of the food he eats. Although today, a friend brought over Sonny's Ribs, and we all ate them..YUM...You have to have a little fun!! Diane
Posted 2/11/2009 11:03 PM (GMT 0)
Diane, there are a million other reasons to eat healthy or at least healthier for all our health concerns, so it would always be a good thing in my opinion. Give that Pete a big howdy from me.

David
Posted 2/12/2009 12:38 AM (GMT 0)

Jersey,

My diet is similar to yours. Looks like I am in the minority, but I do think diet can make a big difference. Here is a recent scholarly study from UC, Berkeley that finds brocolli has anti-cancer compunds that help advanced breast cancer patients. (One might assume brocolli would help in the fight with other cancers.)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081203092435.htm

It is frustrating when we read conflicting reports. But even if diet does not fight cancer, it sure improves quality of life, which only helps in the battle. I have lost 25 pounds, and feel at least ten years younger!

Bless you all.

Bill in San Diego

Posted 2/12/2009 3:26 PM (GMT 0)
I was in Scott's camp until a couple of months ago, believing that diet had little to do with PC because of all the conflictiing studies. When I asked my Oco doc what I could do to prevent the cancer from growing he said go an a veg diet. After I laughed and asked if he were kidding he said he was dead serious and said I should read "The China Study" by Colin Cambell.
I'm pretty much a facts guy and after reading it I found out that the evidence was just too compelling to ignore anymore.
If you read any books or papers by oncologists they always stress diet, and they know more about the biology of cancer than all the other docs.
My take is that just about everyone has some type of cancer, whether it grows into a tumor or not depends on how it is nourished. In the lab we know we can affect the rate of tumor growth just by varing the amount of animal protien. There is also just too much anactodal information to ignore diet as a means of slowing progression of PC.
All the stats indicate that all of us are more likely to die from a heart attack then from PC, so a heart healthy diet has been proven in just about every study ever undertaken.
I've changed my diet about 3 months ago, cut out all meat, and dairy and try to limit all animal protien (fish) to less than 5%. I feel better than I have in 30 years, much more energy. I still have my 3 cigar a day habit, so I'm not totally overboard.
JohnT
Posted 2/13/2009 1:18 PM (GMT 0)

Hi JerseyG,

I agree with your diet. Suggest you read The China Study by T. Colin Campbell.

Quote: "Dairy intake is one of the most consistent dietery predictors for prostate cancer in the published literature" and "meats, dairy products, and eggs have frequently been associated with a higher risk of proste cancer [twenty-three studies cited]"

taiping

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