Encore pump and Osbon Erecaid tension rings

I started having borderline ED back in 1998; Willie needed help for penetration. Viagra worked when I had a partner but didn't work when I *********d. I guess I didn't turn me on. Willie was bored after 50 years of me.

I bought the Encore electric pump system and it worked. The erections were larger than natural, but the head turned purple and cold. Willie was almost numb. This worked fine with my womanfriend: she kept Willie warm and loved my stamina (I couldn't feel much).

I used the Encore pump 3 weeks after my daVinci surgery 5-21-09 (not nerve sparing).  The erection was 20% smaller in girth. Willie was now purple, cold, and NUMB.

I researched the Internet and noticed that Osbon Erec-Aid rings had a physiologic design: 

 more pressure on the corpus & reduced pressure on the topside nerves and blood vessels.

(My Surgeon said he recommended the Osbon Erec-Aid for his temporarily impotent patients).

I tried medium and large rings. Both worked well: Willies head dlidn't turn purple and was noticeably warm. He is not numb, but decreased sensation and lack of arousal prevented orgasm in 5 attempts.

Rusty,

I am about to replenish my Encore rings. But if you say the Osbon rings are better maybe the extra cost is worth it.

I assume the Osbon ring can stretch over the Encore tube right?

You said both medium and large Osbon rings worked ok? I Assume you have the 4 set Encore ring set? Which of those worked best for you originally? I use two of the next smallest (never tried that teeny tiny smallest one -- it looked dangerous -- like it would chop things right off!!!) The next to smallest was about a 5/8-3/4" inner diameter. Which Osbon ring is about equivalent to that?

Also what about those stretchiness levels on Osbon?? Standard, High and MaxElasticity ??? Any preference there??
Sorry about all the questions -- just hard to buy at 17.50 a pop if you don't know exactly what each size means.

Also on the purple-ness. When I started, I did get pretty purple. But now after 3 months the color is fairly normal. I do have a seemingly permanent TRI-tone skin color now tho on the shaft ... upper part normal, middle is dark and lower is normal. My wife calls it Her Lil Guinea Pig -- like those White-Black-White ones. Is there no end to ED Indignities??? Kind of neat looking tho.

Post Edited (JStars) : 7/7/2012 7:09:49 AM (GMT-6)

OK a follow-up on the Osbon tension rings:
I tried one Large Standard Tension ring (inner diameter about size of a PENNY just touching the little bump surfaces etc).

(The Medium has an inner diameter somewhat smaller than a dime -- but remember it is an odd shaped opening -- not round).

The Large did have about the same tension as what I think is a #2 silicone ring (has about a PENNY size inner diameter). (Like the ones you get with an Encore and other pumps).

But for me the Large-Standard allowed too much leakage. Same leakage as using one #2.

To give an idea, 2 #2 rings would keep things at about 80% of max after 10 minutes (vigorous action).
One Osbon Large Standard tension ring keeps things at about 60% of max after 10 minutes.

I have an Osbon Medium Standard and a Medium High Tension (yow!) yet to try.

The Large/Sandard is a little tougher to slip off too -- even with the little handles.
... more tomorrow ...

Post Edited (JStars) : 7/7/2012 7:10:34 AM (GMT-6)

Results of the Medium Standard tension ring are in.
That one also did about the same as the single #2 ring ... or the Osbon Large Standard tension -- about 60% left after 10 mins.
The Medium is also a tough one to slip off afterwards -- but no tougher than the Large.

I am thinking that any one ring is going to be that way -- just not enough to stop the leakage but will do more research with the Medium - High Tension ring next and then start in on two-ring combos.

The single Osbon Medium - High Tension (the pink one) did do a little better than the regular tension ring of the same size - but not by much -- still around 60% left after 10 minutes. (by the way that is still pretty good hardness even tho the length is gone down).
To get it off I had better luck by pulling on the handles and then getting a finger or two UNDER the ring part and then you can stretch it enough to slip off. That's some tension!

Onward and upward (we hope) using a couple of the Osbon rings next time.

I found this forum when seeking advice about the Encore Impo Aid kit, which I ordered from Vitality Medical for $94.00 plus $8.95 shipping. I came with size 3,5,7 & 9 tension rings, made of silicone and with large handles. The size 7 & 9 were too big, the size 5 just OK, and the size three (1/2 inch hole!) worked fine, but began to tear after a few uses. Also, my wife objected to the handles. She prefers that I use Viagra, which works fine, but can be costly and give me a headache. I ordered size 3 & 4 rings from American Diabetes Wholesale for $10.99 each plus $6.95 shipping. The size 4 was too big, the size 3 is fine but the previous one tore, so I was looking fro something better. Thanks to this forum I ordered Osbon Erecaid rings, medium, standard and high tension, from Metro Medical for $17.35 each plus $12.00 shipping (arrived in two days.) The good news is they load easily on the Encore tube, and appear to be very sturdy and have small handles. They give me a big, long lasting erection! I don't feel any big difference between the tensions.

Another issue is the use of silicone lube. I like Better Sex Essentials silicone lubricant, available from Sinclair Institute. Some sites warn"don't use silicone lube with silicone products", but that doesn't make sense to me. But it might be a problem with the Encore rings.

Yet Another update on the Osbon rings.

1 month ago I replenished my rings that I had bot last July 2009. Those original three (Large-Standard, Medium Standard, Medium High-tension) had done a great job all that time. I don't think they really stretched out much -- same good tension -- and daily use.

But just in case I got three new ones (free shipping).
This time a Large-standard, Large-high and just for fun got a Medium-Super-Stretchy.

It turns out that the best new combo is the Large-High and the Medium-Super-Stretchy. Things stay at nearly 100% (or more than 100% really) for 20+ minutes use. Also the so-called super-stretchy is equal or greater tension than the same size medium-high version. I `don't know why that is -- maybe a wrong formulation?
It is also a Manly Industrial Gray color -- not pink -- gotta get our manliness wherever we can these days, I always say.

So they certainly withstood the test of time and tension and I still highly recommend them.

(Also the Encore Battery pump is still going strong after more than a year of hard use -- the pump/motor has a lifetime guarantee anyways so that is good).

I can't remember where I found this list for the Erecaid tension bands but I found it useful.

From least tension to highest tension:

1. One large standard tension (beige-A)

2. One large high tension (pink-B)

3. One medium standard tension (beige-C)

4. One medium high tension (pink-D)

5. One medium standard tension (beige-C) and one large standard tension (beige-A)

6. One medium high tension (pink-D) and one large high tension (pink-B)

7. One medium high tension (pink-D) and one medium standard tension (beige-C)

I use #6 and it seems to work fairly well. I do lose some by the end but it is still enough to do the job.

Need Help Guy,

I suggest you keep trying with smaller/higher tension rings. For me, at first, I had the "you have got to be kidding" feeling when I slid them from the cylinder onto me  --- snap!! But, eventually I became comfortable with the higher tension rings and they work so much better for me. It took a lot of practice and trial and error but now I am pretty good/fast at it.

Other tips:

1. Go slow .. don't rush when pumping. 15-30 seconds breaks.

2. Do not press the cylinder into you .. use very light pressure .. just enough to create that vacuum.

3. Stand .. hold at a 45 degree angle down.

By the way, I have an Augusta pump but decided to use the Osbon Erecaid rings with it.

I tried the pump for the first time this weekend and failed ,I could not get it hard enough for insertion,I practiced the two weeks but wow,it is a production,not sure what's going on ,I'M using the two smallest rings,I am having a hard time with this whole thing,I hope it gets easier to use or the real one comes back soon ,it has been 3 months since RALF but no sign of anything even taking viagra or the others.DO i need the bands only on the shaft?WhenI apply the rings they seem to be more on the base of penis.I really hope this pump works for what it costs,I'm not sure if UHC will reimbuse me for 500$,seems pretty high for what it is and the success I'M HAVING??????I guess practice,practice is the only answer.
GAMMS

Still no luck with VED,Iam using the 500$ ved ,I am using the comfort ring,as scrotall tissue keeps sucking up into tube,it is getting bigger but does not stay inflated,maybe some stop leak or something lol.The two smallest rings work the best but I THINK i'll return this pump and by a cheaper one,like the oncore.I think their ripping us off for that price,especialy if it doesn't work for me.Ive had it for 5 weeks with no success,I practiced evryday for the two weeks till it was sore,as suggested TIMMS 24/7 HELP LINE was a farce!Woodless!

gamms

Yes, you can use two bands.

I use both the Gray small and Pink d and it keeps me hard for as long as I wish.

It does cut a little circulation off so it may take a little longer for your orgasm.

Also I found that KY isn't as good as the slicker glycol based lube.

My wife commented that it felt more nature with them versus KY

Tom West Central OHio

When I first started using the Osbon Erecaid system, I found that to maintain a firm erection meant that the tension ring was so tight that the pain it caused negated any pleasure I may have had from intercourse. I have solved the problem completely by applying some 5% lidocaine ointment around the base of the penis 15-30 minutes before using the pump. There is no pain when I put the rings on the penis (I have to use the two pink rings for an adequate firmness). My pleasure is restored, and my partner's satisfaction is also restored. Our sex life has never been better. I am a post radical prostatectomy survivor.