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Posted 3/31/2010 6:23 PM (GMT 0)
Mel/Complier has a thread about worsening continence
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=1761121
I know just what he means but I was having a think about why. My continence is not so much worse as variable and I was wondering about what is going on just inside me.

The pee-regulating part of me that has been altered by the surgery is the area just between the invisible end of my penis and my bladder, which is obviously right next to the rectum.
So are my bladder and its "full/empty" sensors and urethra, plus the pelvic floor muscles and the assorted nerves throughout that area influenced by whether or not my rectum is full or empty or whether the contents are soft or empty or moving around. As my visits to the WC to pee have been different this week, and so have my BMs!

Alfred
Posted 3/31/2010 6:27 PM (GMT 0)
I think your anotomy is off a bit. The rectum is the "exit portal" isn't it and doesn't really hold stuff.

The two are unrealated if you ask me...I pee 20 times during the day and I poop once in the morning like clock work.

 

Posted 3/31/2010 6:35 PM (GMT 0)
Alf
I think you are correct about your anatomy. Remember that normal intestinal function involves regular contraction and relaxation (peristaltic waves) to move things along. So your bowel has the potential to nudge your bladder. It may be that it is just a matter of time for your bladder to learn to ignore this.
Posted 3/31/2010 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
Steve
the anus is the hole,
the rectum is the section of tube about 4 inches long just inside the anus.
The next section further inside you is the Colon which is where the most of the poo collects, so when the poo starts to get into the rectum and fills it up then sensors tell you that it is time to go. I think it is those sensors that have been mucked up.

For years you could set a clock by my BMs too = 08.25!
Now I'm going both more often and at less regular times. (And now the clocks have switched to summer time too which has also mucked up my eating and drinking and therefore my peeing and BM's too.
Alf
Posted 3/31/2010 11:08 PM (GMT 0)
Alf,

Great question. I have found that my bowel habits have changed. I am also more prone to leaking small amounts of poo in my shorts.

I Have attributed some of it to using the same pelvic floor muscles to hold my anus shut, and to hold my bladder shut. When we fart it is not unusual to leak a little as well.

I have not really been able to figure it out. Just hoping time will straighten it out.
Posted 4/1/2010 12:00 AM (GMT 0)
Alfred,
I think you are to something here, I seem to hold more urine in my bladder if I have just emptied my colon (pooped). a full colon must pressure the bladder and therefore more trips to the toilet.
Posted 4/1/2010 1:23 AM (GMT 0)
Alfred I sometimes get the urge to pee or i need to poo its hard to tell which one i need to do so i just sit down on the throne and see what happens that doesn't happen all the time just every now and then i think after the prostate is removed things are closer together so one urge may be close to the other one so it tell them both its time so the signal get cross up so it signals for both and the time you sit down it striaghten out thats my opinion ps hopes this helps
DEERHUNTER
Posted 4/1/2010 5:44 AM (GMT 0)

I totally agree. My bms have been different in terms of sensation. Much more difficult

Mel

Posted 4/1/2010 4:20 PM (GMT 0)
I think the two sensations are connected in some way, as I have definately felt the duel urges since the operation. I also wish I could pass wind without a urine leak, perhaps there is a certain method of doing this now. All the best from England.
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