A study on Green Tea

I know this concerns green tea and breast cancer, but thought it may be of interest to others here, since quite a few here promote

and drink green tea in regards to their PC.  It is but one study, but I thought the results were interesting.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20101029/sc_livescience/notinthebaggreenteadoubtedasbreastcancershield

I'm running my own little clinical trial with beer.

Hey Jazzman, can I join your trial please ? I do have experience !.....lol......Kev

personally, i feel the green tea and even the pomegranate juice are just the current trendy cancer patient's "i got to do something to help myself" items. some of the extreme dietary changes i have seen some promote here just aren't good for the body, there's a reason why there is a food pyramid. i had a long talk recently with the oncology dietician at my hospital. she mailed me a good amount of info on eating properly with me being a several times over cancer patient, and no point, , does she reccomend cutting out entire food groups, i.e. red meats, dairy, etc.
her big thing: healthy heart diet, not because i have/had cancers, but to promote a healthier body in general, to make it easier to deal with all things medical now and in the future.

she said unless you are allergic to milk products, no benefit to switching to soy, as you will pick up more calories, and it can cause worse digestive problems. soy milk is best for young nursing soy beans, lol.

for all the talk i have seen in 2 plus years here at HW, people will go on and on about dietary things, or their pet supplement, etc, but whenever the subject of drinking or smoking comes up, there is silence in the air. If you are a regular/and/or/heavy smoker, then you are negating any possible good of dietary changes. If you drink too much, the damage to your liver and other areas far offset any good you will ever do with diet

i am an ex smoker, though i only smoked for about 5 years, i quit the night beforer my prostate surgery in 11/2008 cold turkey, and have never had a drag or even been tempted. i figure what is the point of going through all i was about to go through, and little did i know what lay ahead for me the past 2 years, if i was going to keep on smoking.

i am not anti-drinking, but by choice, haven't even had a sip of beer since 1973. Nothing judgmental there or intended.

the point: in the desperation to do something, many PC patients focus all on the wrong end of things, and think a lifetime of bad habits and their effects are going to disapear because now they are suddenly concerned since they have cancer.

green tea is never going to hurt you, if you can handle the taste, but i would only look at it as just another healthy beverage, but nothing more

david in sc

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"If you are a regular/and/or/heavy smoker, then you are negating any possible good of dietary changes. "

Sorry David but that's a bunch of horse hocky

I'm a smoker and I'm on a path to lose a total of 20 pounds or so...I could easily go the other direction and gain 50 or more pounds if I wanted too.

So me being a 5'11" smoker at 200 lbs due to a decent diet would be much better then if I hit 275 lbs...

>>So me being a 5'11" smoker at 200 lbs due to a decent diet would be much better then if I hit 275 lbs...<<

i guess it's not possible to eat well and not smoke?  i quit smoking almost 20 years ago after smoking heavily for 23 years.  i also quit drugs and alcohol more that 20 years ago, and i take my daily pomegranate pill (Pom).  i don't know if the pill will do anything for me but i know the other changes have.

ed

Sancarlos, my friend, I am not anti-alcohol by any means. I have no moral issues or any other issues with those that drink. My wife loves her wine, and I have learned much about wine over the years by studying the subject, and she loves for me to pick it out for her. I have an incredible sense of smell, and can discern a lot about the flavor base on the aromas. I think modest wine drinking is probably healthier in many ways. In my earlly 20's, I nearly died from acute pancreatitis, and was advised never to drink alcohol for the rest of my life, and thus I haven't.

My father, father-in-law, mother-in-law, step mother-in-law all died of health issues directly attributed to being chain smokers. They all grew up in the time when it was generally not considered a health issue unfortunately. However, as an exception, my mother has been smoking for 64 of her 83 years, and she smokes a lot, and despite having had a quad heart bypass and a moderate stroke 2 years ago, she still smokes. Yet so far, she shows no sign of any serious lung or breathing issues. At 83, she should live out her days as she pleases in my opinion.

I fully realize that both subjects are personal choices, and that we are all of adult age, so people can do as they please.

very good point, jerry. never thought about that before. glad to see you have a nice stream of "zeros" going there for you!

Steve, that, of course, is a possible combination. But if you asked most general doctors, like a PCP or Family dr, I would wager that most would say if you had to choose between being somewhat overweight from poor eating, or being a full time smoker, that they would say it would be better to have the weight, than the damage from smoking. Again, we are just talking, not on your case personally..

The best combo, is to eat a heart healthy diet, and not smoke, and if you drink, mostly drink red wines, and drink in moderation.

david

after being a lifetime of being a sugar monster, espec. chocolate, my goal post this surgery, is to curb it back 80-90%. I havent had any cookies, pie, ice cream, etc, since Sept 22, the day before I went in for surgery. As of now, I dont even have the desire to want
any of that stuff, so we each fight our own demons so to speak

Sephie - " But, we do know that being overweight contributes to a whole host of diseases and conditions such as diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, cancer, etc."

That's pretty much what I had in mind when I said a smoker that eats nothing but ice cream etc etc wouldn't live as long as a smoker who eats a proper diet. So I'm not sure which part you disagree with.