good news - PSA - Zero Club - personal thoughts

The puppet master is a zero ----- way to go Bronson. Being a hugger from way back consider yourself hugged (((((((( )))))))
Bill

Carebear - thanks for the cheer - it feels so good!
Billy Mac - glad you can spell right and thanks for the hug

Hope - thanks again, I was surprised about the numbers going down - I was hoping that it would be even - another 0.05 ....
- my feeling on this matter is what I put in my original posting - make it undesirable for the PCa cells to stick around - don't feed them and don't give them a home ...

NOTE: everyone is different and what works for one does not mean it will work for others - I believe in antioxidents - some don't
- diet and exercise do help the emotional and physical stress that PCa dumps on us - I wish I had a definitive answer ....
-wishing you all the best with your upcoming PSA results.

Jakester - thanks !!

hugs,
BRONSON

LOGOSLIDAT -
-have now changed my regular routine to just include - green tea - instead of the pomegranate version ( the Celestial Seasons version made me ill) and a 6 ounce glass of blueberry juice courtesy of mr. ocean spray...
-many thanks for the information

-note: my doc looked surprised when I tallked about the ringing in the ears (tinnitus) side effect of Viagra -and wrote it down on my chart - with the combo of the CIPRO ( which can cause tinnitus) and VIAGRA - life is a 24/7 hummmm in the ears - never any quiet.

hugs,
BRONSON

Casy59 As Tom Joad said in " Grapes of Wrath ", I'll be there.

I thought Tom Joad said "I sure would like some of them pork chops"

Dale:
- thanks for the kinds words and support.
- it was interesting that with the emails to my family/friend support group - the response to the "good PSA /cancer in remission" email, 50% of those who wrote back only talked about the weight loss
- Steve said, it was probably easier for them to deal with weight than cancer - and some may still not understand what PSA is all about.
-I was referred to this website - caloriecount.about.com/ -by a dear friend, who lost 10# since January.
-as the weather warms up - I will be more outside ... I now just need to get a job to get me through the summer - my regular garden centre job manager has not returned my calls... ( which is part of my depression / food cycle)
-thanks again for your support...
healthier hugs,
BRONSON

Hi Bronson, Excuse my boldness in 'bumping' your good news of last week!

I actually read your post when it was posted, but it sparked off a massive personal research episode for me which has now resolved so I thank you for that.

First, brilliant news on the .02 PSA - what a "beauty".

Second, my husband like you,  has gained weight in the last few years and it has worried him for the same reasons. He has now lost a few pounds, and is doing quite well slowly and surely, but recently was commenced on Crestor for cholesterol - I am getting the script filled today. Until your post however,  I had not heard of the other benefits or its relationship to Pca, so have spent a week researching all aspects of this, including much diverse commentary. I also looked up the website you mentioned in a reply to another (calorie count one), and what a great site for weight loss info. Thanks again. You are a wealth of information!   Thanks finally for your passion to advocate for education about all aspects of pca and awareness. I agree, and even in a spousal role myself, try to use my influence whenever possible to educate others. Last week, I referred a young woman to this website for her dad - he is a survivor of 2-3 years and in his 60's, and she was seeking more information now she is studying nursing,  so I am giving her this address next week and she is going to refer her dad to it too. Every little bit helps.

I am so happy your PSA is great, and thanks again for all the additional info which was so useful to us! I just had one question however,  and that is, are you on 10 or 20 mg for Crestor? My husband has been prescribed 20 daily. He has not been on medication of this sort before, but needs to get the level down somehow!

Kind regards to you and Steve,  Lana. (((()))) 

tatt2man said...

- as you know I am a fan of antioxidents and learning how to like the taste of blueberries since Pomegranates are now a no-go.

I think I sent my congratulations on PSA earlier in this thread...either way, "congratulations" again!

I saw later in the thread more details about how you are energetically embracing a new prostate healthy/heart healthy diet...congratulations on that wise change, too!  Change can be difficult, especially when we have built up years of "momentum" doing things one way, but you will no doubt improve your health and well-being if you stick to it.  Good luck.  Fighting cancer can be hard, but we owe it to ourselves to do all the we can do which knowingly improves our odds of success!

If pomegranates are a no-go for you (I like the seeds themselves but not the taste of the juice, so I take extract pills), then have you considered concord grape juice for it's antioxidant impact?  Personally, I like blueberries and eat them almost every day, but as you can see HERE concord grape juice is even a step-up of about 20%.  It's also quite cost-effective.

Congratulations on landing the summer gardening job again, too.

-it was my understanding that the use of statins did not prevent prostate cancer but may inflluence the re-occurrence of PCa.

-here is one of many links to that subject -

ihealthbulletin.com/blog/2009/04/26/statins-reduce-prostate-cancer-prostate-enlargement/

- I was concerned that with my weight gain post-surgery ( 30#) and increased BMI would affect my PSA - and it appears that it has not.

losing weight hugs,
BRONSON

P.S. my name is Bronson and I am a ju-jube-aholic .... this is my second day without a bag of ju-jubes...

DAVE:
thanks and hugs - I do have my one cup of Tetley green tea in the morning-
- if I had three cups of tea - I would be floating up to the eyeballs -
- if I have tea in the afternoon or evening, I am peeing up a storm - filling the bedside urinary flask ( 32 oz) in one evening...
-wishing you all the best
BRONSON

Just found this info on another thread. It seems many labs use <0.1 to indicate that the PSA level is considered undetectable. I feel better now.
Quote from Walsh's book:
This is the bane of the hypersensitive PSA test: Sometimes, there is such a thing as too much information. Daniel W. Chan, Ph.D., is professor of pathology, oncology, urology, and radiology, and director of Clinical Chemistry at Johns Hopkins. He is also an internationally recognized authority on biochemical tumor markers such as PSA, and on immunoassay tests such as the PSA test. This is some of what he has to say on the subject of PSA anxiety:

The only thing that really matters, he says, is, “At what PSA levels does the concentration indicate that the patient has had a recurrence of cancer?” For Chan, and the scientists and physicians at Hopkins, the number to take seriously is 0.2 nanogram/milliliter. (20 pennies my italics) “That’s something we call biochemical recurrence. But even this doesn’t mean that a man has symptoms yet. People need to understand that it might take months or even years before there is any clinical, physical evidence.”

On a technical level, in the laboratory, Chan trusts the sensitivity of assays down to 0.1, or slightly less that that. “You cannot reliably detect such a small amount as 0.01,” he explains. “From day to day, the results could vary—it could be 0.03, or maybe even 0.05”—and these “analytical” variations may not mean a thing. “It’s important that we don’t assume anything or take action on a very low level of PSA. In routine practice, because of these analytical variations from day to day, if it’s less than 0.1, we assume it’s the same as nondetectable, or zero.”

gold horse-

-thanks for the congrats and the happy face !

-have done some more research today regarding pom juice and statins and it seems that , if I ain't injured by a year's worth of interaction - there was NO INTERACTION.

- so back to the pom juice - 1 glass -3-6 oz a day - and 1 glass - soy beverage (was never a "milk" - they couldn't make the wooden stools short enough) 3-6 oz a day and the Lipitor statin - 10mg a day with evening meal.

-looking forward to this week's GFMPH Cajun Weekend - and seeing the guys and gals that can attend - will be great to see the faces of some of this wonderful extended family.

hugs,
BRONSON

kbrdmn2, Congrats on the good news and continued membership in the Zero Club!  Coincidentally, I am waiting to hear from the Uro's office on my 2nd post-op PSA result drawn yesterday...sitting on pins and needles at the moment...