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Posted 10/28/2011 6:30 PM (GMT 0)
Yes Sick I did open that post of my own free will, and I responded of my own free will. Isn't that what a forum is all about?
Posted 10/28/2011 6:36 PM (GMT 0)
I think someone may be having a bad day
Art
Posted 10/28/2011 6:42 PM (GMT 0)
worried guy was talking about having ED-



-and on a lighter note ( I can't get the image out of my head) - Art talked about watching "Gilligan's Island" on TV...

I can just imagine The Professor building his own Da Vinci machine out of coconuts, in order to operate on The Skipper ( a Naval Vet) for PCa, while Gilligan and MaryAnne supply the power but riding bicycles - with Ginger as the nurse ..... and Thurston Howell III and Lovely as..... ZZZzzz...

Post Edited (tatt2man) : 10/28/2011 12:51:16 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/28/2011 6:57 PM (GMT 0)
Hey Bronson

I am still laughing about the Gilligan RALP surgery and can't get the images out of my head . . . . all on a three hour tour. . . .

Terry

Posted 10/28/2011 7:08 PM (GMT 0)
Ginger can do anything she wants to my prostate.
Art
Posted 10/28/2011 7:26 PM (GMT 0)
My crush was on Mary Ann.
Posted 10/28/2011 8:06 PM (GMT 0)

Startech said...
My crush was on Mary Ann.

Mine too, at my younger age I liked that innocent type of girl, today it doesn't matter so Ginger would work too.

Posted 10/28/2011 8:11 PM (GMT 0)
As I get older, Lovey Wentworth Howell is looking better and better.
Posted 10/28/2011 9:38 PM (GMT 0)
Wow. This has become an interesting thread.

ART - do you mind a dose of reality? Let me start with a cliche: It is what it is.

The reality is that for those of us like me with a rising PSA, we are not cured. We are always looking at the next phase. For those with a very very low or undetectable PSA, WE DON'T KNOW. AT THE very least, it is a remission. Is it a cure? One can hope so. YOU DON'T KNOW.

The challenge is to try and live one's life fully. Whatever works, If religion does it for you, fine. If assuming you are cured works, fine. For some, it is just finding a path that works.

I really thought you were pulling our legs. I see that's not true, but that's okay too. I wish you the best of luck.

What is fearful to me personally is the fact that I am heading for HT. Reading posts like yours is scary as it underscores what I may (or, hopefully, may not) be in for. It looks like you have been through hell with the HT.

In fact, if you wouldn't mind sharing any insight in dealing with HT, I would find that interesting too.

Again, good luck to you.

mEL

MEL

Posted 10/28/2011 10:03 PM (GMT 0)
I don't need Ginger, married to my own wild Red head.
Posted 10/28/2011 10:22 PM (GMT 0)
SOMEHOW i KNEW THAT THIS ORIGINAL POST WOULD TURN WITH HAPPY ENDING. THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE INFO
ART
Posted 10/28/2011 11:35 PM (GMT 0)
Art:

I did respond to your email

Mel

Posted 10/28/2011 11:46 PM (GMT 0)
Euripides said it best:
"Count no man cured until he is dead"
Posted 10/28/2011 11:51 PM (GMT 0)
Sick, if I made a post like that, I would hope some one would call me on it and force the explanation that should have been an integral part of it. So you see in my little world I follow the ethics you espouse at least. Passive Aggressive. google it. For Sick and any one else, that doesn't agree with my bluntness and truth, get over it...... More of it is needed, Are we cheerleaders, who support anything a pca poster says and does, or are we concerned brethren who will coddle when its helpful, be tough with the truth when its required and not be intimidated by the Borg when it senses some one " out of step "
Sick, I,ve been off forum a few months and that was the first post I read of yours. Reading your posts subsequent to the " upheaval ", I am more convinced that your post was inappropiate, as you are very articulate and not a Whack. If you can't see this, I find that unfortunate. BTW I got a little OCD on my plate also, So and I say this respectfully. You BS your friends, I'll BS mine, but lets not BS each other, OK, big guy.
Posted 10/29/2011 12:05 AM (GMT 0)
Tenpin, its too bad you are here at all. I think you will find suppoert as you go through yur unfortunate journey.. and hopefully have a speedy solution, liveing a lifetime of hapiness.

BUT, "all of you should be ashamed of yourselves" ? I tried being civil and honest... I dont feel I should be ashamed of the perspective I offered.

It is not right to blame everyone for the statements of some.

It is also not right for ANYONE to blame a poster/member for speaking about their situation in an accusatory or dismissive manner.

When I first read the post, I actually stopped to consider if he were being sarcastically humorous. Because his journey didnt sound like one where most would put out the "victory" flags. And I think some responded with a negative bent that MAY come with being a person living with cancer. Anotherwords, the perspective you hear is from those typically living a nightmare as well.

Then, it appeared to me that he had FINALLY gotten SOME good news, amongst all the contradictory and unsensible medial opinions he was subjected to (even by good doctors trying to do him well), and he decided he had paid the price they took, his psa level responded, and he had to live life while he was alive.

I have been saying that for years, perhaps as an excuse for myself to enjoy life regardless, so I can appreciate where his mind is at.

We are imperfect people fighting an often deadly, yet always impacting and moving target with our bodies and out minds. Its tough.

Ultimately, I am confident that 100 out of every 100 people on this borards wishes NOTHING less than this brother of ours remains healthy and happy.. to watch his son become a father as well.

Or whatever. I go in a month to see if the radiation I swallowed 6 months ago worked... so I havent got it all figured out either. Not close.


RF
Posted 10/29/2011 12:15 AM (GMT 0)
Bob:

Excellent post.

Let's all keep in mind that we are all fighting this demon. The Pca or the tx. can certainly make one ...shall we say...emotional.

Let's cut everyone some slack.

All people have bad days.

With PC, we might have some more bad days than others!

Mel

Posted 10/29/2011 12:31 AM (GMT 0)
Logoslidat,
I think you are 100% on the money in what I think you're thinking.
Bill

Post Edited (BillyMac) : 10/28/2011 7:09:36 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/29/2011 12:35 AM (GMT 0)
good post, logo, good balance too

david in sc
Posted 10/29/2011 2:48 AM (GMT 0)
Wow, BillyMac and Purgatory, I just got Chicken skin, goose bumps to those on the mainland. I really appreciate those 2 posts. Thanks again.
Posted 10/29/2011 11:21 AM (GMT 0)
there are so many on here that have .1 or undetectable PSA for 5, 10, even 20 years. At what point do they consider themselves cured?

Art

I solved my worries.

Posted 10/29/2011 11:57 AM (GMT 0)
 have a good friend here in Birmingham who had surgery 10 years ago and his PSA has stayed undetectable but he will not use the cure word he tells people he is cancer free. I know another guy who after 5 years of undetectable PSA his PC came back and he has METS in his bones and bladder now and he thought he was cured. This is why some of us here  get touchy about the  "being cured" subject.

 

Terry

Posted 10/29/2011 12:08 PM (GMT 0)
I think that it depends on your GS. If you are a 7b=10, then I think that it would be difficult to consider yourself ever cured. Although personally, my comfort level would really rise if I got to 10 years without a relapse. i do know a man who had a BCR at 10 years after surgery and SRT and is now do HT. If you are a G6 and had successful surgery, organ confined tumor, you can probably consider yourself cured after your first couple of PSA's. I have read, I believe in Walsh's book, that the cure rate in these situations is 99%.
Posted 10/29/2011 12:12 PM (GMT 0)
Now thats what I am talking about.
Everone is different.
We all wish we were fortune tellers but we have to rely on what facts we have at our disposal.
That is what I am going by.
Art
Posted 10/29/2011 2:25 PM (GMT 0)
Sickofbeingsick great post.are you frustrated,or optimistic? but still I like your post.After almost seven years of zoros I feel very concern every time they do blood work.and when I get close to ten years then I will be more concern.But I still like your post. tongue

Posted 10/29/2011 5:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Gold.
Most on here think I am neither, most think I am nuts LOL
Art
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