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Posted 2/12/2013 10:06 PM (GMT 0)
i confess i posted this with selfish motives. i also like to throw out some food for thought

i am petrified about recurrence or metastasis even though the margins were negative.

if there are ca cells around i want to be as poor a host for them as i can be. i want to be proactive, rather than waiting for my PSA to rise.

anything that increases my odds i am willing to think about.

so, i've heard about statins, metformin, radiation post surgery all can do this but with differing side effects. and there are so few studies about this.

since i am still healing from the surgery, radiation is out.

my cholesterol profile doesn't warrant statins but i think i will either get a script or use red rice yeast.

dave
Posted 2/12/2013 10:17 PM (GMT 0)
I am of the same opinion about creating an environment that might help.
It is a controversial topic here, though.
I take Red Yeast Rice and have had no problems with it: Cholesterol about 145 . It is a statin that might lower inflammation. Also am trying to eat vegan a lot of the time: Middle Eastern, Indian, Chinese. veggie patties, bean burrito's, etc.
Metformin may have given me constipation so I'm off it for a couple of months at least. Am trying for lower blood glucose by limiting starches.
Good luck with your program.
Posted 2/13/2013 1:50 AM (GMT 0)
Have a nice glass of pomegranate juice every day.

Cheers,
Kris
Posted 2/13/2013 2:52 AM (GMT 0)
I'll not even digress on the pom controversy that may erupt here, but if you want to do something that will not hurt you (other than the hit in the pocketbook), pom, a vitamin C source, and vitamin D are good starters.

I hate to admit it, but when orange juice, oranges, and grapefruit proved to be a contributor to my incontinence (and to some degree conflict with my BP meds), I had to find an alternative. A mix of pom and other juices (cranberry, blueberry, cherry) plus a vitamin C pill (100% pom juice as marketed has no vitamin C) replaced OJ in the morning.

Did it help? My PSA kept rising like a rocket, but who knows? It might have risen faster without pom juice. Maybe, maybe not.

Posted 2/13/2013 4:23 AM (GMT 0)
IP-6 comes and goes...It's on the "A" list again...A respected researcher has found merit in it..
Posted 2/13/2013 11:59 AM (GMT 0)
Robertc
I control mu blood sugar by mixing 1 tablespoon of apple cider
vinegar with 8 oz of water and drinking it at bedtime . I also walk 3 miles everyday ,watch my sugar intake and eat very little starches food. you can check it out on the web. my fasting blood sugar
reading always less than 100 and two hours after I eat it 125
that depends on what I eat .
let us know on healing well if work for you
Posted 2/13/2013 12:23 PM (GMT 0)
Gassman,

Your numbers are not much different than mine and I had the same thoughts you are having, in fact when I first joined HW some here even asked why I wasn't going to SRT after my surgery. So far 19 months post RALP my PSA is undetectable and my URO sees no reason that it will not stay that way. In fact I have now graduated from 3 month to 6 month PSA test. Don't sweat any further treatments until there is an indication that you have a BCR.

On the other subject, I took Lipitor for 4 years and last fall I started on Red Rice Yeast and Krill Oil supplements to control my cholesterol with my doctors approval. Krill oil help elevate HDL (the good one) and has eliminated the arthritis pain and swelling in my fingers. Krill Oil in some research I found has benefits for prostate cancer patients as well. I buy both of these items on Amazon.

Finally to get more response on this thread you should edit your first post and add a subject like may be " How do I increase my odds after RP?"

Terry

Posted 2/13/2013 1:03 PM (GMT 0)

Changing diet habits is important.  Otherwise, how could one change nothing and expect different results?  Words to the wise, avoid aluminum.  Aluminum is overlooked by many.

Avoid cooking with aluminum pots, use non aluminum baking powder (I hear the scurry of feet going to the kitchen :>) underarm deodorant without aluminum, aluminum cans.  Start reading labels, anything beginning with “alum***” is most likely aluminum based.

Research on your own about aluminum and your health.  Aluminum is fairly easy to avoid, breaking old habits with older men is not. 

Posted 2/13/2013 5:26 PM (GMT 0)
I never knew that there was aluminum in baking powder. I will have to go to the health food store and get some baking powder that does not contain aluminum. I don't see any alternative to aluminum cans though. I use organic canned tomatoes and organic beans a lot in cooking, and I'm sure that the cans are made of aluminum.

Gasman1, my husband had some extra prosthetic extension but negative margins. He was a gleason 3=4. Radiation was not recommended. I am so nervous about a BCR. I am trying to really upgrade his diet which was poor before his diagnosis of PCa. I am trying to implement lifestyle changes - less stress, exercise and a better diet. I don't see what else we can control.
Posted 2/13/2013 6:59 PM (GMT 0)
You can buy aluminum free baking powder at a normal food store (mine does).

It will say aluminum free on the label.  It is a well named brand, you will see.

Don't think canned items use aluminum, and some have a coating inside, soft drinks

use aluminum.  Beer comes in aluminum cans or glass bottles.

I use stainless steel cookware, stopped using teflon because the scratched off

pieces go somewhere.  I do use aluminum foil to coat a steel baking pan.

Eventually will try a good baking pan or pyrex pan to stop using foil.

I think foil use is my last step on greatly reducing aluminum.

Was a slow process learning all the aluminum products and how to elimate them

with ease.  All it took was choosing different items, deodorant, soap, shampoo, pots

, baking soda, bottles instead of cans.  I don't go crazy about it but make sure the

stuff grabbed often is aluminum free.  Although when I see an ingedient being

baking powder I go hmmmm.

When researching "stuff" taken internally, and put on externally, I'm

amazed I made it this far.  Time will tell if it makes a difference after

55 years of cell saturation.

Post Edited (Sagittarian) : 2/13/2013 12:35:55 PM (GMT-7)

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