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Posted 9/6/2013 12:43 PM (GMT 0)

Having been a member of this exclusive club for 3 or so years I have made a number of observations. One of the most common revolves around ED and HT. 

Whilst it is well known what effect HT has on one's libido it is interesting to note that there are some, who having completed HT and regained testosterone, still find visual stimuli non-arousing.  A push or, more appropriately, 'a pull' is required to get things moving. smilewinkgrin   What causes this if, for all purposes, one is back in the same physical position pre-HT? 

Paul yeah

Posted 9/6/2013 1:56 PM (GMT 0)
I didn't do HT...but my surgery seems to have killed my ability to stand a full attention when the wind changes direction and or I see something that should stimulate me to some extent.

Being on T meds hasn't helped much either.
Posted 9/6/2013 2:03 PM (GMT 0)
Since I just started Lupron in March of this year, I cannot speak to the long term after effects on Libido, but must admit my medical oncologist at UF & Shands was correct when he stated I will still be able to get an erection, however I would have no desire to use it.

I hope he is as spot on with his other prognostications.

Obviously long term I hope to have no ED and to again have a strong Libido. Here's hoping your source is not correct.

The good news is that even if it is correct. it then means I have gotten far enough to be off the Lupron, and presumably past whatever the subsequent treatment will be.

LupronJim
Posted 9/6/2013 2:45 PM (GMT 0)
PAUL - My husband has been off of HT for over 2.5 and he still has no libido to speak of.  He also has low T and on the advice of RO, GP, and Urologist is not going to try T supplements due to positive margins.  Of course, he is just 1 guy out of many and everyone is different.  Is there an actual physical cause for it, hard to say.  I think after having cancer and going through everything you guys have to to eradicate it, remove it, or whatever, you look at things differently.  Being a woman I know the mechanics of how and why things work etc. but I don't have the same mind set as a man so its hard "know" what is visually appealing enough to cause a physical reaction.  Do the things that cause said reaction change as you get older or due to health concerns?  Interesting question. Have a wonderful weekend.  Supposed to be beautiful here in VA, low humidity and temps in the upper 70's.
Posted 9/6/2013 4:20 PM (GMT 0)
who having completed HT and regained testosterone, still find visual stimuli non-arousing.

not me, for sure.  if a sexy woman doesn't arouse you the cause could be anything from old age to depression.

ed

 

Posted 9/6/2013 5:56 PM (GMT 0)
Ed,

Given that I'm in my mid-40's and never suffered from depression even when diagnosed, Avodart may be the culprit in my case.

Paul
Posted 9/6/2013 7:59 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry to say, that it is not only HT guys who suffer lack of libido. I am going on 26 months post daVinci surgery and my libido was zero. Whereas in the past, I was preoccupied with sex like an 18 year old. I personally believe that it is a combination of things.... The shock of cancer in that "area", the fact that we can't get easy erections (or even with thoughts anymore), the fact that we have dry organisms, the fact that we have lost size, the fact that we worry about our next PSA test and cancer returning. And the fact that most of us are at lease a year older since we last had good sex (prior to treatment). I think that depression is a real component.

Two weeks ago, I got my 25 month PSA test back as undetectable and that was a tremendous relief. This week I seem to have been thinking more about sex. Hopefully, my libido will return.....but I know that things will never be the same. Its just part of this terrible disease.

Bill K. from NJ
Now age 60
Posted 9/6/2013 8:08 PM (GMT 0)
Well heck,
"Love never dies". Sure, age and lupron have taken their toll but I still love my wife and , yes, I am stimulated although my wife's MS makes any action problematical. She was having a bad day a month or so ago so I posted an e-mail to her with the name of the poem, "An Ode to a Beautiful Lady." Maybe the lupron has a beneficial effect since I love her more than before I had a 45ml shot..go figure!
Bill idea
Posted 9/7/2013 4:32 PM (GMT 0)
I have heard many men on this forum say that while there my be less intercourse, they now have more intimacy which their spouse actually prefers.

I be on of them

LupronJim
Posted 9/10/2013 11:29 PM (GMT 0)
just to add that after been on zoledex for 4 months now I have very little side effect and yes i have no lilido.

I have no sex drive but my wife still does :O) and everything still works fine in the bedroom. So we create some time and she puts on a video and that helps :O)
With young kids we were used to planning for some time together even if not really in the mood. Even if the mind is not turned on - a video helps get your body interested.
Posted 9/10/2013 11:36 PM (GMT 0)
I was on HT for 12 months and it took near that to get mine back to a normal level.
Posted 9/11/2013 12:09 AM (GMT 0)
Sometimes no amount of testosterone or for women the balance between estrogen and testosterone can create libido.   Our minds work in conjuction with testosterone.  It doesn't have to be depression but Z06dude was right about what he said.   Also, levels too high in a woman mimic the same symptoms as too low.  I'm not sure if that would be the same for a guy. One of the best ways to get the mind and body going is sensual and erotic massage.  Massage is healing and is so good for the body and soul.  Giving a person a massage is very arousing for both parties.  Don't do it on the bed, it leads to sex too quick.  I got a massage table on CraigsList for $125.  I've turned a guest room into our spa room. the first time Dave massaged me, I think it was all of 10 minutes before he went for the goods.  lol...I told him, he could not touch anywhere sexual for at least 50 minutes and I set a timer!  Get lots of candles, battery/remote controled from Costco are great too. Make the room dark.  Play spa music.  Sweet Almond Oil is a great massage oil and lube as well.  I get it either at Wal-mart or better grocery stores in their international cooking oil section.  My favorite brand is International Brands Sweet almond oil.  It comes in a square bottle.  It's pure and food grade and won't harm the delicate vagina. Note about Trimix:  He can't inject Trimix at the beginning because too much time passes with no stimulation regardless if he is the giver or reciever. When I gave him a massage, I had him inject after he turned over and after I massaged the non-sexual parts. I think it kind of interrupted the mood but he had zero complaints! I just deleted a bunch of information about giving an erotic massage.  I think that is best left off this forum.  But there are techniquest that are important.  PM me if you're serious about massge with your partner. I really believe that the combination of the visual, touch and intimate setting will do the trick!    We need to think outside the box now.  Life is different, we are different and we can't go on what used to be.    
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