Estradoil Patches WITH HT

Hi Everyone,

I'm not new here. I had full cryosurgery in 2006 and with a psa presently of 13.6, which has nearly doubled in the past year, I will be going on HT soon (sometime in October). Up to last year, I had no evidence of mets and I expect to get a full nuclear update before I go on Lupron.

Much has changed here since I last posted in 2011 or 2012. I was very saddened to see that Bob Parsons has passed. And to David (Purgatory), it's been a rough journey but I say keep hanging in there bro!

Well, now to my issue.....and that is low dose estradiol patches used WITH Lupron. I have read a lot, some but not much with supporting literature of which there is really not a whole lot available (and I am familiar with Dr Myers' position) but instead, here and on Yananow, with the testimony of those who have actually used these.

I would like to try and convince my doc to supplement my Lupron with low dose patches to combat hot flashes, help my bone health and assist in maintaining my memory. I am especially afraid to take a bisphosphanate (sp) as I have 10 crowns and moderately loose teeth from periodontial disease, which I had many years ago when I smoked (my gums are good now).

I would love to hear any stories supporting or against estradiol patches from those who have used or are using these patches for the same reason I would like to use them. With that, this would be my support for trying to convince my doc to let me use them, either at the inception of HT therapy or later, when a blood test reveals my likely estrogen deficiency. This would also be a useful repository for those, in the future, who would like to convince their own docs the same. Hope I am not going against any Forum rules. If I am, I ask the moderators to delete this post but please do not delete me. I am asking this in good faith!

Thanking you all in advance!

Break60 said...
With my second bout of ADT, this time triple blockade prescribed by Dr Dattoli with SRT to pelvic nodes, he prescribed estradiol patches changed twice weekly which provide a dosage of .1mg per day . I also take cabergoline for breast enlargement , prolia for bones and metformin as well as calcium as vitamin D3. These are all used by Snuffy Myers as well I believe. Vigorous strength training is also important to maintain bone and muscle strength, stamina and emotional well being.
The patches eliminated night sweats and I only get hot flushes now and then. Much better than my first round of ADT on lupron only when I suffered from bad night sweats which are just dreadful!
Bob

Wow, your doc is throwing the works at it. Is the metformin to be proactive or did you already have pre-diabetes/diabetes? I am on the borderline of pre-diabetes and I will be talking to my PCP this week to see if I should be proactive. BTW: thank you for the info!

Bob, the possible affect on PCa of metfomin is interesting and may even be compelling from what I have just read. I must say, your doc is on the ball! Wish you well in your treatment!

I guess ditto to what Bob wrote. I have no night sweats and am hoping they help with bone health and to combat other side effects of HT.

I would monitor your blood often if using these and other meds just to make sure liver numbers, etc... stay within range.

BTW I get blood tests every three months to monitor for SEs of meds I'm taking as well as PSA , T etc. and six month follow up scans.
Bob