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jack1954
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Joined : Nov 2016
Posts : 41
Posted 3/22/2017 2:32 PM (GMT 0)
Hi all
I had my third PSA since surgery and results from this one means that further treatment will be started this week i.e adt/ht. and then in 3 months time radiation.
Psa history-
RALP nov-16
Dec16 psa <.008
Feb 17 psa .01
Mar17 psa .100
Gleason 10 with +margin and +LN
Ive lost around 5kg since surgery my deis been imoacted and I feel depressed. Been to physactrist for depression feeling better now.
My oncologists threshold was .05 now its .1 in 6 weeks he is planning adt asap and radiation in around aug-17.
Cheers
Almost a 10
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Joined : Mar 2014
Posts : 1074
Posted 3/22/2017 2:44 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Jack,
Although I am not in your skin I feel as though I understand how you feel. You are still recovering from your RALP and now you have been told you have a recurrence and if that isn't a kick in the gut, I don't know what is. All I can say to you is that there are treatments available to you that will help you knock this beast down for a long time. I am not going to go into details, but the same thing happened to me. I am now approaching my 4th year since diagnosis and I have to say that since I have been doing a little more exercise I haven't felt so good in years. Take care my friend.
Fl Drifter
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Joined : May 2016
Posts : 404
Posted 3/22/2017 2:52 PM (GMT 0)
Hello Jack ....sorry to hear this news .....try and stay positive ....live everyday to the fullest ...exercise....love.... that`s all I have ..........good luck on your continued journey.....David
InTheShop
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Joined : Jan 2012
Posts : 11468
Posted 3/22/2017 3:49 PM (GMT 0)
sorry to hear of your troubles.
Sounds like your doctors have the correct treatment lined up for you.
Depression is common so very glad to hear you got some help for that.
Hang in there,
Andrew
Redwing57
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Joined : Apr 2013
Posts : 2827
Posted 3/22/2017 4:15 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry to hear about
this development. How frustrating.
There are many therapies still available, and you may have a very good response. It sounds like you're not wasting any time, and are moving along to the next steps.
All the best to you as work through this.
samster
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Posted 3/22/2017 4:24 PM (GMT 0)
So sorry to hear this... Hang in there!
PeterDisAbelard.
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Posted 3/22/2017 4:46 PM (GMT 0)
Jack,
I've been where you are now and I clearly remember that it sucked big time.
There are two pieces of good news. 1) RT isn't particularly horrible. 2) HT, while distinctly horrible, doesn't last forever.
A few bits of random advice:
The more you exercise during HT and RT the better you will feel. Both treatments tend to make one fatigued and unenergetic. It may seem counterintuitive but the harder you work your body the less fatigued you will feel.
If you are struggling with continence issues after your RP you should work your kegels between now and the radiation. Radiation tends to interfere with the process of getting dry.
If you watch whodunits on television it's best to have a viewing buddy during, and for a while after, your radiation. While I was doing my radiation I would reliably fall asleep during detective-style shows and my wife would wake me up during the end credits to tell me who the bad guy was, how he committed his crime, and the nature of the fatal mistake that led to his/her capture.
Hormone therapy used to improve the effectiveness of radiation has two good aspects. The first is that it generally does improve the outcomes for treating recurrent prostate cancer with radiation. The second good aspect is rather like banging your head against a tree -- it feels so good when you stop. It helps to remember that one's mojo is hibernating, not dead, and it will probably wake up after that last HT shot wears off.
Don't lose the number for your shrink. Antidepressants sometimes seem to help with the cognitive/mood side effects of hormone therapy.
Good luck.
Tall Allen
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Posts : 10645
Posted 3/22/2017 6:43 PM (GMT 0)
Jack-
That's a good plan, and hopefully they'll get it all this time.
Depression and anxiety are normal reactions - who wouldn't feel that way? You seem to be a man who identifies problems and tries to fix them, in spite of those sometimes debilitating feelings. Exercise will help a lot - it actually makes the radiation work better.
Hubcapdad
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Joined : Mar 2017
Posts : 1
Posted 3/23/2017 12:16 AM (GMT 0)
I am a post-radiotherapy Gleason 9 with the tumor having broken out of the prostate gland. "Treatment" now is just monitoring PSA which remains at 0.01. Thank you to all the correspondents here for their positive comments which have helped me gain a healthier attitude towards my long-term prognosis. Michael (UK).
Boreal Photography
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Joined : Mar 2017
Posts : 35
Posted 3/23/2017 12:33 AM (GMT 0)
Tough break Jack but hang in there.
Ron
Pratoman
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Posted 3/23/2017 12:37 AM (GMT 0)
Jack, not much to add, just want to say good luck with your treatment. There is so much tht can be done, so many available treatments, and it sounds like you are right in top of it.
Re depression, totally understandable. I was depressed for months after surgery and my pathology was good. I think it's natural, and over time, you will get accustomed to the new normal, your mind will reset, and you'll feel better about
things.
You will be in my thoughts as you go through the treatments
island time
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Posted 3/23/2017 2:38 AM (GMT 0)
I'm just stickin' my head in the door to wish you well Jack.
island time
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Posted 3/23/2017 2:46 AM (GMT 0)
A fwiw....
Same as Pratoman here. I've been pretty depressed since my dx. but....esp. since my tx.
But the days.....not unlike the physical side of things.....have gotten better. Not in a straight line.
BillyBob@388
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Posts : 4906
Posted 3/23/2017 3:22 AM (GMT 0)
Jack, that quick rise of PSA after your RP truly sucks big time, but hang in there Brother! It is far from over for you, and it is quite possible that you can get some really good and really long term results even after this initial bad news! Heck, you might well even have a normal life for a long enough time to die from a heart attack like most normal guys. ;) Long before a truly clinical case of PC even becomes evident, if it ever does. There are actually guys here who started out with metastasis and PSAs in the hundreds or even thousands, and 10 years later are basically undetectable! They were spectacularly blessed, it is true, but you might be also. Could well be! So hang in there, Brother!
Bill in MS
TonyInVirginia Beach
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Joined : Apr 2015
Posts : 104
Posted 3/23/2017 2:27 PM (GMT 0)
Hang in there, Jack. There are others in the same boat with you.
Luckily, there are many options available to manage this nuisance.
I'm managing recurrence, also. But, I feel I'm more likely to be run over by a texting motorist while cycling than from this disease.
Wishing you the best!
Tony
Narnar. (Ron)
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Joined : Dec 2016
Posts : 37
Posted 3/23/2017 8:06 PM (GMT 0)
Hang in there
there is always light at the end of the tunnel
Ron
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