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Posted 2/19/2009 5:27 AM (GMT 0)
cfromutah et al-- what do you think of actually consuming sunflower OIL? Far easier on the colon to gulp a tablespoon of that than eat a handful of potentially scratchy seeds.
Posted 2/19/2009 7:25 AM (GMT 0)
Sunflower seeds are high in a lot of vitamins and minerals. One of the minerals that I think plays a big part in making the diet work is magnesium and sunflower seeds are quite high in it. Sunflower seed oil has nearly no vitamins(except Vit-E) or minerals so I don't think it will do the trick like the seeds do. But sunflower seed oil is very high in vitamin E and Vitamin E is beneficial to people with UC so the oil is probably beneficial, But I don't think as much so as the seeds because it lacks magnesium.
Posted 2/19/2009 11:25 AM (GMT 0)
I was wondering that! Thanks!
Posted 3/27/2010 12:42 AM (GMT 0)
Boy, reading this thread is like reading a novel.... very interesting. Did it stop here, or are there more posts?
I have started on spinach and sunbutter and I am seeing huge improvement in my symptoms. Thank you guys.
Posted 4/27/2010 11:15 PM (GMT 0)
how's everyone doing that has been on the sunflower seed/spinach deal? i had a bit of blood the other day and ate some seeds and spinach. gone now!
Posted 4/27/2010 11:21 PM (GMT 0)
I've said it here recently, but this diet has worked for me 3 different times with remission lasting about 2 months each time. Unfortunately, I keep finding new foods and drinks that will put me back in a flare (carrots and wheat beer)
Posted 4/28/2010 4:17 AM (GMT 0)
i'm still doing great
Posted 4/28/2010 1:55 PM (GMT 0)
Actually spinach and sunflower seeds have not been exceptionally effective for me. But what I find really works is psyllium seeds (not psyllium husks). Some have recommended powdered psyllium seeds, effective but I find unpalatable and hard to take. Regular psyllium seeds are similar in size to sesame seeds, they don't mix well in liquid but I add it to my oatmeal or cereal in the morning. I find it very effective for IBD.
Posted 4/28/2010 2:18 PM (GMT 0)
BITW,
are you in remission? how many seeds to you take? my daughter goes between D and C so I'm thinking of introducing psyllium seed. how do they help you?
Posted 4/28/2010 4:48 PM (GMT 0)
Killcolitis - my daughter takes about a tablespoon of psyllium seed powder in the morning and evening with applesauce and VSL#3. It helps with both D and C. It also keeps the stools soft and provides some bulk. We think it has helped her tremendously and hope that it helps others, but as you know this disease affects everyone differently.
Posted 4/28/2010 4:52 PM (GMT 0)
UC pop, are you guys in remission? i think we'll start the psyllium in the near future. Thanks for the advice.
Posted 4/28/2010 7:44 PM (GMT 0)
I mix oatmeal or cereal, frozen or fresh blueberries, probiotics (sometimes a packet of VSL3 only if its a cold cereal), and 2 spoonfuls of psyllium seeds with ample milk to absorb the psyllium. I prefer eating psyllium as small sesame seeds rather than powdered. It works like a wonder drug for me. (Hope I did not just jinx myself).

about 3-4 times a week because I really do prefer eating eggs for breakfast. But whenever the big D rears its ugly head I mix this concoction once or twice a day and the D disappears. Probably will not work during a full blown flare.

I found an article a few weeks back on this forum showing that probiotics and blueberries are a very effective synergistic combo for IBD.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/20100209/Combination-of-blueberries-and-probiotics-protects-against-intestinal-disorders.aspx

Post Edited (BabeintheWoods) : 4/28/2010 2:50:38 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/28/2010 10:18 PM (GMT 0)
Killcolitis,
We are in remission. As you can see from the signature, she takes quite a few supplements which we have researched along with Lialda. I don't want to jinx anything either, but we believe that the psyllium seed powder has worked well for us. We also understand this disease can take long cycles of flare or remission with little rhyme or reason. Bottom line is we are enjoying remission and the remission started shortly (days) after starting psyllium seed powder and the zinc supplement. We also believe in Rowasa enemas and suppositories both for flares and in a maintenance dose, as well as VSL#3DS, Florastor (Saccharomyces boulardii a probiotic yeast), fish oil, curamin and of course the 5 ASA drugs.
On another note, I understand that Mutaflor will be available soon in the US. Mutaflor is e coli nissle 1917, which is a potent D fighter and has been used for UC in Europe for quite a while. We are in remission now, but we will keep Mutaflor in mind if needed as we have read good things about this probiotic.

Best to everyone,
UCPop
Posted 4/28/2010 11:05 PM (GMT 0)
I have mixed equal parts psyllium seed powder (bought on internet), flaxseed powder (ground at home), and benefiber (100% soluble fiber). I started with 2 tablespoons of this mixture with home made yogurt in the morning and 2 tablespoons with a glass of home made buttermilk before bed. Also a big spoonfull of sunbutter with breakfast. Have no bleeding, D or C any more. I also add a pouch of VSL#3 into my yogurt batch.

One more thing I do on regular basis is juice of Cabbage, carrots along with small amounts of ginger, garlic, onion, cilantro, and mint. about a cup, three times a day. stops the symptoms with in 24 hours, every time. Only thing is that this gives me some gas and I have to go to bathroom frequently. But the stool is well formed with no blood.
Posted 4/29/2010 12:04 AM (GMT 0)
I'm not sure if anyone has asked this already but aren't seeds hard on the colon? I was told by my GI not to eat anything "scratchy", and sunflower seeds would certainly fall into that category. Also, I have diverticulosis, and seeds, nuts, corn and several other types of food are on the list of things to avoid.
Posted 4/29/2010 1:57 AM (GMT 0)
yeah if you dont chew them real well. Thats why some people eat sunflower seed butter instead of the seeds.
Posted 2/28/2011 5:57 PM (GMT 0)
Hi!
I am new to this site and i am pretty interested in this diet. I just have a few questions regarding the basics of it.
Is there anything i should aviod? Such as products with sugar, milk products etc.?
What do you eat besides the spinach and sunflower seeds? Is it just regular food or do you try to eat someting specific?
My english is not the best, but i hope you understand.
Thank you!
Posted 3/3/2011 3:15 PM (GMT 0)
I have been reading about this diet for a while now even though I have never tried it. Question regarding the spinach, when I eat spinach it doesn't digest in my system. Basically it comes out the way it went in. I even experience this with green beans as well. This happens when I have been in remission for over a year as well.

Does this happen to anyone else when they eat spinach or is your body breaking it down?

Posted 3/3/2011 3:46 PM (GMT 0)
The point would be to chew well...these aren't "digested" as in not seen upon exit...

It also depends on how much stool one has, what other foods one eats with those meals, how fast or slow the transit time is..etc.

I have salad and sometimes I see it in the toilet floating a bit (I clearly don't chew very well)...but it doesn't make me think I shouldn't have salad.

But....certain foods make me feel sick, nauseated, or create tons of uncomfortable gas...I choose to eat them or not.

If something you eat creates diarrhea or quicker transit time or discomfort, don't eat it. As well, smaller amounts might agree compared to larger amounts.

q
Posted 3/3/2011 9:06 PM (GMT 0)
FWIW, sunflower seeds are not abrasive if you crush them up in a coffee grinder.
Posted 3/4/2011 2:08 AM (GMT 0)

SMfromCA said...
I have mixed equal parts psyllium seed powder (bought on internet), flaxseed powder (ground at home), and benefiber (100% soluble fiber). I started with 2 tablespoons of this mixture with home made yogurt in the morning and 2 tablespoons with a glass of home made buttermilk before bed. Also a big spoonfull of sunbutter with breakfast. Have no bleeding, D or C any more. I also add a pouch of VSL#3 into my yogurt batch.

One more thing I do on regular basis is juice of Cabbage, carrots along with small amounts of ginger, garlic, onion, cilantro, and mint. about a cup, three times a day. stops the symptoms with in 24 hours, every time. Only thing is that this gives me some gas and I have to go to bathroom frequently. But the stool is well formed with no blood.

@SMfromCA

When you drink your cabbage juice concoction, is that all you are consuming the whole day? Or you just drink that three times a day in addition to what you are eating throughout the day? I did hear that cabbage juice reduces inflammation.
Posted 3/4/2011 2:30 AM (GMT 0)

quincy said...
The point would be to chew well...these aren't "digested" as in not seen upon exit...
It also depends on how much stool one has, what other foods one eats with those meals, how fast or slow the transit time is..etc.
I have salad and sometimes I see it in the toilet floating a bit (I clearly don't chew very well)...but it doesn't make me think I shouldn't have salad.
But....certain foods make me feel sick, nauseated, or create tons of uncomfortable gas...I choose to eat them or not.
If something you eat creates diarrhea or quicker transit time or discomfort, don't eat it. As well, smaller amounts might agree compared to larger amounts.
q

I only put a 1/2 cup of spinach in my scrambled eggs in the morning. The spinach is cooked and mashed up completely my body just doesn't digest it but I continue to eat it. Yeah I obviously don't touch anything that causes discomfort or bloating.......its too much of a risk.
Posted 3/4/2011 6:40 AM (GMT 0)
And what is stool consistency like?

q
Posted 3/4/2011 6:09 PM (GMT 0)
@MomWithUC, I have the juice with my regular diet.
Posted 3/6/2011 4:35 AM (GMT 0)
Spinach has been very helpful. So helpful I seldom eat it any more but this is a good reminder.

I also have a bowl full of psyllium husk caps and psyllium seed caps. I stuff the seed caps myself into the largest capsules I can buy ( because it wrecks everything I mix it into - tastes like dirt ). I grab one of each 2-3 times per day with water. 2 of the big seed caps were leading to constipation so I am thinking this is a good balance - one reg husk and one jumbo seed powder with a drink.

I use concentrated curcumin oil capsules twice daily too. VSL#3 occasionally and yogurt almost daily. Lots of water.

No complaints.
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