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Posted 7/6/2010 10:23 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Idkwia--

I like that Healthy Trinity is in capsules that are supposed to only open once in the lower GI tract, but there is only 30 billion cfu total per capsule. 
That isn't much when compared with VSL --- I am just starting to take VSL to see if I see a difference.

I think that I need a lot more probiotics than what is offered from Healthy Trinity -- it would get really expensive to take so much HT-- I was already taking four caps per day.

I wish the VSL was in a form that would disperse only in the lower GI tract.  I talked with a VSL rep and she said that they can't be fully certain of how much VSL actually survives through the stomach acid.  I am interested in the VSL enema posts here just for that reason.

As far as the colorectal recovery program goes, what I really liked about it was the Hydro C (I tended toward constipation and that really helps) and the Glutamine powder.  You could substitute your own multi vitamin and omega-3 for the other supplements.

Thanks,

L

 

Posted 7/6/2010 11:05 PM (GMT 0)
Lynn
So do you feel that glutamine isn't causing C in you? I've read that glutamine can cause C and C is what I'm trying to eliminate.
I am sooo weary of supplements that are $ and hurt more than help.
My colon likes almost nothing (VSL#3 is helpful though).

Thanks for any info.
Posted 7/6/2010 11:34 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't had any constipation since starting the hydro-c and the glutamine. I have always taken the two together and I hadn't taken glutamine previously, so I know that that wasn't a cause of my constipation.
I think my C probs come from really off gut flora.--
L
Posted 7/7/2010 9:47 PM (GMT 0)
Lynn4221 - thanks for posting this.

I used VSL#3 for 2 months but it did nothing for me but that doesn't mean it won't help you. I have also read in several places that it is not the amount of bacteria per CPU but whether the particular strain works for you and whether that reaches the place it is needed. And just because a strain is good for one person it doesn't mean it will help another.

Natrens claim that their probiotics have a unique delivery system which places the bacteria where needed. I understand that one needs to take all of their products which are designed to reach the places that need them.

I have been in correspondence with a guy that works in a lab where they study probitiotics and he advises that you should find a good probiotic and take it for 2 to 3 weeks and if it doesn't help then move onto another one untill you find one that works.

Of course human feces contains billions of a complete set of good bacteria (if you have a healthy donor) including many strains that have not yet been discovered by medical science. Human feces are therefore the number one probiotic.

Posted 7/8/2010 4:18 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, I agree about the human probiotics--
I am going to hit the VSL for a few months and will probably give a VSL enema a try before I take the human probiotic plunge.
It seems like more people on this forum are heading that route and it is of great interest to hear that it is working--

-- I did try a month of Mutiflor -- I just didn't order again this month because it has been so hot here and their delivery system wasn't very insulated--everything was melted and hot by the time I received the package. I couldn't really trust that what I was paying for was still alive after travelling for two days in 90+ temperatures.

Depending on the VSL(very good and reliable cold shipping even in hot weather) and how that goes over the summer, I might give Mutaflor another extended try in the fall. Hopefully they will have a better method of shipment in a few months; at least then the weather will be cooler throughout the shipping.

I am not going to reorder the recovery program now that I have done it for 4 or 5 months. I am going to continue using the Hydro-C and the glutamine, though.
L
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