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Posted 10/16/2010 8:35 PM (GMT 0)
I haven't had much experience with yogurt making. I am lactose intolerant but would like to add yogurt in my diet for the calcium, protein and adding good bacteria daily to my probiotics. I used yogurmet starter in the past but ran out. I made yogurt the other day using fage but it tastes very mild. I'm wondering if it had enough live cultures in it and if it broke the lactose completely. I'm afraid to eat it now. I used the 7 oz tub with half quart milk and left it fermenting for 24 hours. Just curious what you scders are using as starter. I find it inconvenient having to order starters online and I am not on vsl which i believe a lot of you use as starter. Any comments/suggestion is appreciated.
Posted 10/16/2010 8:57 PM (GMT 0)
Hi ll

Can I give you my opinion of yogourmet starter for UC probiotics? I think it sucks. I noticed a big difference in how I felt using yogourmet (worse) vs. VSL#3 as a starter (way better). I know yogourmet can be purchased in smaller quantities and VSL#3 is more expensive (although less expensive per packet).

Anyway, on to fage. Sure you can use it. The way you make sure all the lactose is gone when making your own is to let it sit in your warm place for 24 hours or longer. It doesn't matter whether the starter you use has lactose in it because it is such a small amount and will be consumed in the 24 hour period.

You will be able to tell if it has enough live cultures at the end of 24 hours. If it is firm before refrigerating (just a little wiggle) you are good. If it's runny then it didn't have many live probiotics.
In the beginning, before I switched to VSL#3 I opened up some capsules of Lactobacillus acidophilus and used them as starter. Worked just fine. I only switched to VSL#3 because many people said it was better. Yes it was for me but others think Align or other less expensive probiotics work fine for them.

So to sum up: you can use fage, or another good quality yogurt like Stonyfield, or open some pill form probiotics and sprinkle in, as many as you feel is right since you can't overdose.

Good luck. I also sprinkle VSL#3 on my VSL yogurt. Yeah I'm overkill on probiotics :-)
Posted 10/16/2010 9:34 PM (GMT 0)
I just made some VSL#3 yogurt today, well I did add a small amount of a plain yogurt as well. Turned out good, very firm and taste about right. Only fermented it about 13 hours though.

I have used Dannon Activia as a starter as well and seem to work good and taste good, but probably VSL give you more variety of good bugs.
Posted 10/17/2010 12:02 AM (GMT 0)
After 24 hours of fermenting, the yogurt was soft, like really curdled milk vs. Sour cream consistency. I think I will ask my gi to prescribe me VSL#3. I also hope I can afford it. I keep hearing how pricey it is but have no idea how much. The only thing is im a little scared to up my probiotics too much. when I tried Mega foods 50 billion, it made my stomach churn and made such scary noises and it prevented me from getting sleep since I take them at night. I gave it a week but the churning and noises did not get better so I switched back to the cheaper stuff which is Solaray 20 billion. Is it ok to mix probiotics brands - like use vsl for my yogurt only and continue teeing the solaray brand.
Posted 10/17/2010 12:41 PM (GMT 0)
ll

I don't use VSL#3DS (the DS is the Rx double strength) I use the regular VSL#3 and buy it mailorder. I think it's $86 with free 2nd day shipping. I'm US South Florida. My deductible isn't up and won't be this year. If it was free/cheaper I'd use the DS of course. Either one will be fine to use. I'd hate for you to spend $$$ and find out it isn't right for you.

You could ask your pharmacy what the cost will be before ordering it. I always do with a new Rx so I don't go into shock.

Your experience with Mega foods is like others here who can take one probiotic but a diff. one causes tummy upset. It helps to try different ones. Yes it's OK to mix probiotics as long as you know which one could be the one causing problems.
I don't know if the 20 bill. vs. the 50 bill. is the problem or if it's the TYPE of probiotics involved. SCDiet only recommends Lactobacillus acidophilus but that type didn't get me into positive territory whereas VSL#3 did.

Everyone here is different. Again I hate for you to spend $$$ on an untried (to you) supplement. Lot's of people like Align which is on the shelf in the pharmacy.
Posted 10/18/2010 1:40 AM (GMT 0)
If you order from the VSL3 website you can order a trial pack of 10 for $34. Expensive but still not as expensive as ordering a full supply. That is what I order to make yogurt because it goes so much further and is more affordable. I only use half a pack of vsl3 and a little plain dannon yogurt.
Posted 10/18/2010 6:37 AM (GMT 0)
Really good suggestions- Thank you imagardener2, zippy and cupcakespinkgal. Sorry for any misspells. I am replying from a tiny cell phone. I will check how much the prescription is and if it's too much, I will order the 10 pack. I am excited to try it.
Posted 2/28/2011 12:14 AM (GMT 0)
I'm making yogurt with VSl right now. I have to admit I feel a lot better after taking it. Leave bad bacteria!!!!
Posted 2/28/2011 1:32 AM (GMT 0)
I was on the SCD Diet for some time when I was early in my UC diagnosis. I made the yogurt and never had any luck with it.

I highly recommend getting raw milk and letting it ferment into kefir. (Drinkable yogurt) It is much better for you. Milk was never meant to be pasteurized. Cooked milk is not good for you I assure you.

Also, when you let it ferment, the bacteria will digest the lactose for you.

I highly recommend Aajonus Vonderplanitz's books "We Want to Live" and "The Recipe for Living Without Disease."

You can find raw milk here:

http://www.realmilk.com/where.html
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