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Posted 1/20/2011 10:19 PM (GMT 0)

I'm trying to avoid SOY and it is in everything.

Odd how in some of the healthiest countries Soy is

NOT ALLOWED!

Just makes one think that its toxicity may be harming thy gut.

Ever Googled "soy" ? try it.

Posted 1/20/2011 10:24 PM (GMT 0)
I see that you're new to the forum...welcome.

I don't really like to disagree with a new member off the bat, but I think of Japan being a pretty healthy country (healthier than the US), and they eat a lot of soy. If anything, I think they've gotten less healthy as they've become somewhat Westernized, which probably means less soy in their diets.
Posted 1/20/2011 10:33 PM (GMT 0)

Ok,  what I meant is Soy MUST and only be fermented thus making it ok for human consumption.

Recently watched the very helpful movies: Food Matters, The Beautiful Truth, The Gerson Miracle.

A must for all UC'ers, Ibs'ers, and Chron victims! Those movies help explain our problem and soy.

Also just started the Gerson diet last week and feeling it! Bought the book "Gerson Therapy"

Gerson.org website has it and so does amazon. 

Posted 1/20/2011 10:38 PM (GMT 0)
Again, not to disagree, but tofu isn't fermented (at least not regular tofu).

And I'm pretty sure I don't eat much soy, as I eat very, very little processed foods.
Posted 1/20/2011 10:43 PM (GMT 0)
I think the quality of soy in this country has deteriorated. it is all GMO at this point. I eat a lot of it but when I purchase it, I only buy organic. That is the only way you will get soy that has not been genetically modified.
Posted 1/21/2011 12:48 AM (GMT 0)
So, is soy good or bad for UC?
Posted 1/21/2011 12:52 AM (GMT 0)
I thought it was good as I drink it instead of milk and it does'nt seem to bother me. But then again, I don't drink a lot of it and everybody is different.
Posted 1/21/2011 1:22 AM (GMT 0)
I think for the majority, soy is better than dairy and red meats when it comes to UC. Unfortunately, I don't like it that much, although I will have it once in awhile.

Chinese consume a lot of soy. Historically, they have drunk soy milk instead of regular milk.

The following is a good link for information about soy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybean

It is possible that one could be allergic to soy. This would be a reason not to consume it.

I don't know whether or not this is true; however, I've read that many of the negative reports or studies on soy milk were funded by dairy associations.

Post Edited (subdued) : 1/20/2011 6:35:23 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/21/2011 1:39 AM (GMT 0)
I ate some tofu recently, and flare-up came back. I do not know if they just happened at the same, or tofu is the cause of flare-up.
Posted 1/21/2011 7:13 AM (GMT 0)
yeah... spammer.
Posted 1/21/2011 6:05 PM (GMT 0)

I just love it when quincy puts down the gavel like that.  It just makes me laugh out loud.  I eat a lot of tofu since my wife is vegetarian and we consider ourselves very healthy.  I got uc way before I ever had anything to do with tofu or soy.

MyUC

Posted 1/21/2011 7:28 PM (GMT 0)
I am newly diagnosed and one of the first things my GI told me to do was switch to Soy Milk....????
Posted 1/21/2011 7:31 PM (GMT 0)
Christine, I don't think you have to switch to soy milk, unless you find that cow's milk bothers you. I have no problems with dairy products, and there are many other UCers who don't as well. I really dislike hard and fast food "rules" like that...nobody can tell you what will or will not bother you. It's something you have to figure out for yourself. So if you like cow's milk, try drinking it and see if you react.
Posted 1/22/2011 5:15 PM (GMT 0)
soy is high in estrogen...fo some it's not a good thing. Especially if it's not consumed...then consumed in high quantities (which many think is a good thing).,

There is also rice milk, almond milk..etc. Rice milk would probably be the least offensive, and it's yummy in cheerios..lol..which of course gives me tons of gas.
As would soy drinks..ugh.

I say spammer only because of the number of similar posts a new member regurgitates.

Maybe I'm a rectal med spammer?

q
Posted 1/22/2011 7:57 PM (GMT 0)
The only way to find out if soy is good or bad for you is to probably try it!
That's how I found it didn't work for me. Actually 1 of my kids is highly allergic to it.
if you do experiment follow everyone's advice & go with raw state. Avoiding anything
processed is always advisable!
Posted 1/23/2011 1:18 AM (GMT 0)
To the OP -- what countries have banned soy?

I eat soy products all the time - fermented and unfermented. I've heard the argument against unfermented soy before but I've never seen any scientific evidence to back it up.
Posted 1/23/2011 6:02 PM (GMT 0)
I think the science behind "soy bad" is the estrogen. Corn has the same problem. But you need to balance good v. bad. I am thinking that a diet high in soy instead of saturated fat might make soy a winner. The Japanese do eat tons of soy and have much fewer health problems than westerners. They also consume much less saturated fat and lots of fish and vegetables.

Real milk and soy products don't bother me a bit. I just switched to skim for yogurt because after a year eating a gallon/week of 2% or whole milk yogurt by total cholesterol is high.
Posted 1/23/2011 7:11 PM (GMT 0)

Sara14 said...
To the OP -- what countries have banned soy?

I too was curious; so I looked it up.

Soy imports will be banned if they do not meet standards. China, the world's biggest buyer of soybeans, has banned soy imports when the soy was laced with pesticides. The US. has banned soy imports of soy that contain soy fungus. The EU has banned soy imports that contain traces of genetically modified corn. And so forth...

There is some debate in regard to cow's milk being better than soy milk for infants. Cow milk is more similar to human milk in that it comes from a mammal. However, human milk is really the preferred way to go.
Posted 1/26/2011 12:19 AM (GMT 0)
The Amazon lost some 10,000 square miles (25,476 square kilometers) of forest cover last year alone — 40 percent more than the year before. All for Soy. Eating Soy is killing the Lungs of the Earth.
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