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Posted 4/5/2011 9:08 AM (GMT 0)
Right guys, I need some help making the perfect healing diet. I don't care what doctors say - it IS possible to get into complete remission for life if one can be strict enough.

Add things if you think it will help heal and we can discuss it, no skeptics please - even if it doesn't heal completely, it will work wonders anyway. Too much food will lead to problems, so don't add heavy calories. If I specify a brand, it's because I have found it to be the best for the job, I am not trying to sell anyone's products. They are examples. EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE CHEWED THOROUGHLY!

The juice needs to be freshly pressed, mainly green vegetables, including cabbage for it's healing capabilities!

Upon waking:
Raw Vegetable Juice with Lepicol Plus probiotics + Digestive Enzymes. + Curcumin and Boswellia

Breakfast:
Chicken Broth and 2 Boiled Eggs

Snack:
Raw Vegetable Juice, followed shortly by RIPE Avocado (30 mins later, take pure glutamine powder in water)

Lunch:
Chicken Broth with a tiny amount of Olive Oil

Snack:
Raw Vegetable Juice with Hemp Oil

Dinner:
Boiled Fish (least amount of time as possible) + Coconut Oil

Pre-Bed:
ZMA <-- find one without additives and other rubbish. Glutamine and Boswellia/Curcumin.

It's boring, but 1 year of this and things will be amazing. I have been in remission for a long time on a similar diet (having money issues right now so I can't do it perfectly). I have a lot more energy than usual. Starches are COMPLETELY out... apart from Yukka Tea, which I recommend.

Just trying to help, so don't be mean :P
Gary x
Posted 4/5/2011 10:22 AM (GMT 0)
Yes. I agree that alternative treatments are the way to go. There isn't much money to be made by developing cures. There's profits to be made by developing medication that has to be taken every single day for the rest of one's life. So I don't expect the pharmaceutical industry to come up with a cure anytime soon.

about diets, I follow an anti-inflammatory diet for the most part. I also avoid foods/beverages high in fructose because I'm fructose intolerant. My diet has helps reduce my symptoms, but treating the cause of my condition has been even more helpful. Antibiotics have eaten up my good fecal bacteria. Fecal transplantation and probiotics have replenished the bacteria.

The items on your diet sound like you have a very sensitive digestive system; so you need to keep your foods as liquid as possible. My digestive system doesn't have this issue. Your diet would give me massive diarrhea. I have to keep vegetable and fruit juices down to a minimum (if at all). I'm glad it works for you though.
Posted 4/5/2011 3:41 PM (GMT 0)
Always good to have someone post what works for them. Pay no attention to the negative feedback, there are lurkers who will listen and try it, maybe not now and maybe a little differently than you. It's all good.

Your food list sounds healthy although perhaps short on fiber. Some colons need a rest from fiber while others need help moving things along. I really can't find much wrong with it other than that. It could work for many diseases such as diabetes too.

Radical? Yes. I cannot imagine more than half a percent of UC people who would take on this diet, even with proof that it works. Most people want a pill to make UC better (I did). Only when things got drastic, like facing harsher medications or surgery did I myself get "radical" and retry SCD diet mod successfully.

I have a juicer and have used it. Veggie juices are powerfully healthy. A little goes a long way with me.

One thing I'd say to people trying your diet is drink a lot of water daily. Water is so healthy for our colons, best without chlorine or other chemicals.

Did you lose much weight in a year?
Posted 4/5/2011 5:16 PM (GMT 0)
I would love to get a Juicer - a saw a really cool one at Costco but it was 350$ which is a little steep right now.
Posted 4/5/2011 5:42 PM (GMT 0)
Jessica, you can find a less expensive juicer anywhere. My husband is into juicing and he uses the Jack Lalane juicer. It was about $150 or so. I, too drink juiced fruits and veggies on occasion. My favorite is orange, pineapple and apple :)
Posted 4/5/2011 6:48 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the replies...

As for the juicer... this one is cheap and AWESOME:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-HR1861-Aluminium-Juicer-Cleaning/dp/B0007XHGHA/ref=sr_1_1/275-6600210-0896955?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1302028930&sr=1-1

Don't know if that's the best price or not, so look around.

As for juice giving you diarrhea, is that from fruit juice? I wouldn't understand getting stomach problems from vegetable juice... it should all be mixed with adequate water, about half and half.

I am not flaming you, I also think fructose intolerance is a temporary thing caused by grains and other foods with anti-nutrients. After a big change for a long time, that would go. Fruit is the only thing that we would've consumed in it's raw state, ALL the time. Meat would've come when we moved to colder climates and fruit wasn't available... Fruit on a tree is much more of a natural food source than grains which need to be processed and cooked. You can have your own opinions on this, I just think fructose intolerance is a problem caused by crappy processed rubbish and will take a long time to heal from it.

Vegetable juice on the other hand, raw and juiced provides so many nutrients with so little digestion needed.

imagardener2, thanks for the kind post. I lost 3 stone of pure muscle when I got colitis at the age of 20, I am 26 now and finally putting my muscle back after 6 years of research lol. I got shot down, but I am climbing back up.

Gary :)

Posted 4/5/2011 6:51 PM (GMT 0)
Not sure where you live but you can find lots of Juicers cheap on Craigslist. Just be careful with adding green, leafy stuff to your juice. I had a run of kidney stones about 12 years ago (six of the buggers in 18 months, last one almost 3/4"). Urologist and PCP could not figure out. ER Doc on my last one asked if I ate a lot of green leafy vegetables and I told him I did a good deal of spinach in my Juiceman Juice. He said that was most likely causing the Kidney Stones (and we with UC have a predisposition to kidney stones anyways). I cut out the spinach and have not had one since.
Posted 4/5/2011 7:47 PM (GMT 0)
So, is this what you have been on for the last year? Or is this a plan you are working on to try?
Posted 4/5/2011 8:10 PM (GMT 0)

WillHealAll said...


I am not flaming you, I also think fructose intolerance is a temporary thing caused by grains and other foods with anti-nutrients. After a big change for a long time, that would go.

Gary :)

Actually, in my case, I am most likely fructose intolerant do to over-consuming beverages high in HFCS. Apparently, the liver is responsible for digesting fructose, whereas the whole body will digest other sugars. That's why fructose is very hard on the liver. HFCS is known to cause non-alcoholic fatty liver. I probably taxed my liver too much by drinking all those wonderfully tasting HFCS beverages. My liver now complains bitterly about fructose. It gives me massive diarrhea. So in my case, I need to give my liver a break from fructose. The liver can heal itself; so I won't be surprised if 10 years from now, I'll be able to tolerate fructose again.

I also won't be surprised if HFCS is no longer on the market 10 years from now:

http://www.gaia-health.com/articles201/000213-high-fructose-corn-syrup-associated-with-liver-disease.shtml
Posted 4/5/2011 8:11 PM (GMT 0)
Tell me why you are using ZMA? What is it good for?
Posted 4/5/2011 9:03 PM (GMT 0)
I have been on this diet (not completely the same because of money issues) for quite a few weeks and I feel great. It's hard not eating sandwiches though to be honest.

As for the HFCS, I really hope it is taken off the market, but I really doubt that the government will push for a ban as it helps keep the population sick. A lot of them know the dangers of sweeteners too, but it's only the outsiders that try to warn us about it. There is a lot of money to be made from the ingredients which kill us unfortunately.

The ZMA helps recovery from exercise (I am a fitness fanatic), it helps raise testosterone, helps induce peaceful and more efficient sleep and replaces key minerals lost from exercise. I think the glutamine and boswellia are insanely important, I haven't got them yet though, nor have I got the curcumin - which is amazing in it's own right.

Some nice people here, very glad I joined :)
Gary.
Posted 4/5/2011 9:05 PM (GMT 0)
Bed-time now, another important factor... don't forget to get enough sleep guys and girls...

Good Night!!
Posted 4/6/2011 6:21 AM (GMT 0)
kiolm, have you healed yourself of uc? i am curious what you have found to help your uc specifically.
Posted 4/6/2011 9:24 AM (GMT 0)

kiolm said...

UC is not a disease. It's no different than getting headaches. Imagine if everyone who had a headache was told they had a disease and their only hope was.......Get this......Keep buying hugely expensive pills made mostly of gypsum until the day they die !!!.lol. :

I can really understand this viewpoint. If a doctor can't figure out why a patient's colon is inflaming, then the doctor will diagnose the patient as having UC.

However, there are many reasons why a person's colon might inflame just like there are a whole bunch of reasons why someone can get a headache.

So what is so different between getting headaches and getting colon inflammations that getting colon inflammations is considered a disease? Hmm... I think the main difference between is that not everybody gets colon inflammations. However, most people have experienced at least one headache in their life. And then most headaches are harmless. They hurt, but they usually go away relatively quickly.

There are some people who experience frequent migraines. There is medication for that, which of course only "cures" that migraine, not future migraines. Sort of like medication for UC. It might "cure" our current flare, but it's not going to keep us from getting another flare; not unless we take it every day, and even then there is no guarantee.
Posted 4/6/2011 2:00 PM (GMT 0)
There is one thing that I have learned with this disease: What works for one person may not work for another. It's trial and error. You just have to find what works for you (whatever that may be) and stick with it.
Posted 4/6/2011 2:49 PM (GMT 0)
indeed.
Posted 4/6/2011 5:42 PM (GMT 0)
There is a good conversation starting on this topic, but please don't let anyone turn it into an argument. I will say that; Kiolm... you need to consider your food choices if you do want to finally "stop" getting UC symptoms. Potatoes and rice couldn't possibly be any good for us. Have you tried eating them raw? They are full of anti-nutrients, and you wouldn't have grazed on them in any stage of our evolution.

I don't believe in any specific diet... but I do believe in the raw food diet... kinda. Anything you CAN eat raw, can be eaten raw or cooked. Anything that is undigestible raw, should not be eaten in any way. I don't care about any diet belief other than the one our bodies have evolved with - I don't understand how people can look through this simple rule.

Love ya all, keep plugging away!
Gary.
Posted 4/7/2011 2:18 AM (GMT 0)
I know a lady from Facebook who cured herself by not drinking diet coke, so basically for some it's as easy as that.


I was a huge consumer of Diet Coke and often wondered if that was a factor in my UC. Someone posted a week or so back that artificial sweetener suppresses the good gut bacteria so I now think it was one link in the chain of bad things causing it.
Not drinking it however did not cure my UC, how I wish it was that simple. Too much damage done I guess for a simple solution as that.
Posted 4/7/2011 3:58 AM (GMT 0)
My GI told me I should only eat rice, potatoes, pasta and lean meat. I cut out meat so it's been pasta, rice, potatoes and eggs for me. I found a slight improvement while removing veggies and fruit. Not a healthy diet i now but it works for me. I can’t wait for the day I can introduce veggies and fruit back into my life but I need to get out of my flare.

Also, I drank Coke my whole life. Had not had one drink of soda since I was diagnosed and it did not help me in any way. However, I will stay away from it just in case.

My meds plus my diet might is what working for me.
Posted 4/7/2011 4:08 AM (GMT 0)
Willhealall, I like your screen name by the way. I too have discovered ZMA and it does create the most restful sleep. No, I'm not an exercise fanatic. Works wonders though.
Posted 4/7/2011 4:18 AM (GMT 0)
WillHealAll... You posted that you were going to try Curcamin. I believe that's the active ingredient in Turmeric Root that is an anti-inflammatory. I can buy a big ziploc bag of Turmeric Root powder at Whole Foods for about a $1.50. It's dirt cheap, almost literally. I've added it to my supplements for the last month or two without any negative side-effects. You might be able to start that way even if money is tight. Whole Foods has a place where you just bag and label your own. I'm not sure where else might have it.

I've been healing myself for the last few months with alternatives. My only other option was Remicade and I didn't want to go that route. I am doing 4-6 different alternative supplements, taken mostly on empty stomachs... and have reduced my symptoms by somewhere around 60%+ within the last couple months. The biggest change was when I quit drinking milk. I still eat yogurts often, and have cheese on pizzas/dips sometimes. I'm still working on things and figure I'm in this for as long as it takes... even if it means years. The alternative is to be sick! So... good luck with what you're doing.

Kiolm: Relating "UC" and headaches is something I've been thinking about for a while now. Basically the digestive system is intricate, and can be effected by a ton of different things. Looking to find one cure is insane given the multitude of possible causes and problems. I agree 100% that the doctors are not approaching this situation accurately. BUT, the one thing I wonder then... is why do the anti-TNF biologics work so well then? Simply absorbing one protein that was otherwise causing a problem... and the colon goes back to normal? It makes me wonder what else that protein is doing. What is it allowing to happen, or stopping from happening? It's so interesting!
Posted 4/7/2011 4:37 AM (GMT 0)

kiolm said...

subdued said...
Yes. I agree that alternative treatments are the way to go. There isn't much money to be made by developing cures. There's profits to be made by developing medication that has to be taken every single day for the rest of one's life. So I don't expect the pharmaceutical industry to come up with a cure anytime soon.

about diets, I follow an anti-inflammatory diet for the most part. I also avoid foods/beverages high in fructose because I'm fructose intolerant. My diet has helps reduce my symptoms, but treating the cause of my condition has been even more helpful. Antibiotics have eaten up my good fecal bacteria. Fecal transplantation and probiotics have replenished the bacteria.

The items on your diet sound like you have a very sensitive digestive system; so you need to keep your foods as liquid as possible. My digestive system doesn't have this issue. Your diet would give me massive diarrhea. I have to keep vegetable and fruit juices down to a minimum (if at all). I'm glad it works for you though.

+1

Subdued for some reason I had you confused with a Moderator on here I like, and since I like your posts you came to mind when I was posting in the now locked thread.(To the Mods.He's not a Dr BTW. You watch. Time will prove this. VSL3 is a scam. I have no reason to lie or axe to grind.)

Guys the more I learn in real life, the more I'm convinced it's all a lie. I urge everyone with Internet access to look at forums that have real people posting on them and that allow real free speech. As many as possible and not just about things tied to UC.

I have ran across all kinds of people on strange forums you've never visited, that have cured themselves with diet changes.....How??? They stopped eating chemicals and fillers basically. You can call it whatever diet you want, but there is no diet that works that includes these.

We're all programmed from birth to believe the lie. By our parents first and later by the media.

If you are getting your Info from mainstream sites or outlets, you are not getting any of the truth and what you are getting is 100% of the lies.

UC is not a disease. It's no different than getting headaches. Imagine if everyone who had a headache was told they had a disease and their only hope was.......Get this......Keep buying hugely expensive pills made mostly of gypsum until the day they die !!!.lol. And get this.....There are several companies making the exact same thing.lol. Haven't you been programed to believe that a "Free Market" always brings the lowest prices???.lol. Explain this away.lol. You can't. They will put us on meds that kill our vision and health and then charge us for it.lol. You can't make this stuff up it's so bizarre. And we're programmed to believe this garbage.lol. They will tell you point blank they have exactly no clue and yet we pay them to kill us???. They can't in anyway explain Placebo and yet we snicker at anything that isn't a pill??? Are you kidding me??? BTW you have Cancer so lets give you drugs and radiation that causes cancer.lol. You couldn't make this stuff up because you assume other people are like you and basically good people. The Fact is they are not like us and they worship the dollar. BTW Placebo has a better survival rate than Chemo and 80% of Dr's polled said they wouldn't do it, but yet it's done everyday. Why?

We are not a machine and we are not the sum of parts. There is so much to be said on this.

There is a lot of truth In going gluten free, dairy free, chemical free, processed free. etc, etc, etc, There is a lot of truth in being positive and keeping positive emotions.....There is a lot of truth in all kinds of "Fringe" beliefs and thoughts but they all are snickered at smugly because "Nobody" believes that. Oprah and CNN is where I get my beliefs.lol. And my smugness from TMZ for Gawds sake.

Truth is defined as the recognition of reality. Recognize that you are just money in the bank to them and nobody but you and other loving and positive people will cure you. There is no pill or supplement or vitamin you can buy. As long as you continue to eat poison nothing will cure you. That's the first place to start and you can move on from there to other wonderfully healthy and positive aspects of being.(And no I'm not suggesting that a stab wound is all in the mind or that what we call UC is the same thing in everybody. I admit it's as different as headaches IMO.)

Once you start getting back to a real diet your eyes are opened and you can see just how bad the fillers and chemicals are for you. And just how much of what they have programmed you to believe is a lie. It's a huge step but it's a baby step really because you will then realize just how much of your life has been programming.(BTW what do they call TV and Radio spots? That's right "Programming")

There are countless videos on youtube with truth in them and countless sites and Internet radio programs with truth as well. There are countless real people that tell truth and yet we're brought up to be snide, smug, cynics except when it comes to marketing!!!!.lol. And Corporate Fascism.lol. There is nothing that is 100% true BTW. It's not that easy. You are unique and your truth is going to differ from others but only in small ways. Micro ways. The Macro's are true for everyone.

I couldn't possibly go into detail into every single thing that is a lie. Or every single thing I know to be truth or good. I'd be typing for months. But please don't take my word for anything. Spend as much time as you can learning real knowledge.

BTW.....You don't even have to learn a thing to cure UC for many. Many through trial and error.....Luck, Observation and Intuition, have done so.

Saying there is no cure is true only in the sense that there is no disease to cure in the first place.

Peace smilewinkgrin





AMEN to that! I can't believe more people on here aren't complaining about MONSANTO and the GMOs or maybe I am missing those threads!

The best advice ever is KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid. I totally agree, just eating foods withOUT chemicals, withOUT being genetically modified (good luck trying to guess which is which since the FDA doesn't require foods to be labeled GMO), drinking quality water with minerals in it, and just eating as fresh and organic as possible will be a HUGE STRIDE in taking back your health and body.

SCREW THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA. They are the devil, period. Thank Gods for the Internet!!!
Posted 4/7/2011 5:49 AM (GMT 0)
I have a juicer but I wasn't sure if it would be ok to use since he said no veggies or fruit althought he did say do not eat them. He didn't say do not drink them. I will give it a try this weekend and hope all goes well. Thanks :)
Posted 4/7/2011 6:08 AM (GMT 0)
anti tnf biologics work well? i'm not really under that impression!
Posted 4/7/2011 2:29 PM (GMT 0)
I don't think there is any pro-HFCS conspiracy as such- it is rather a simple case of economics. Corn is an extremely cheap crop with a high profit margin for agribusiness. You get what you pay for, and niche products that cost a premium will start to show up more and more in the wake of the anti-HFCS press. I think all sugars are bad for my UC but I do agree that HFCS as well as its sheer cheapness have played a big role in epidemics such as obesity and diabetes.
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