Remission by VSL3 enema

WOW! This sounds like promising stuff. I have some VSL#3 DS coming soon so I will try this. Something else I've heard of, people doing Vitamin E enemas with some success. Anyone tried these or heard anything?

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Montana,

Thanks for the info. I've heard good stuff about slippery elm powder, either taking it mixed with honey orally, or using with some form of enema. That stuff has been on my radar to try out for a while so I'll just go ahead and get some. I'm also going to give nicotine patches a try. I've never smoked but read about some good results that non-smokers had after trying them. The vitamin E seemed like a good idea when I first read about it, then I thought, that's a lot of little softgels to bust open and squeeze out. LOL... I'll post my results once I get going with this stuff.

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I've tried the nicotine patches, it can be scary. They are really strong if you've never smoked. I ended up sick, dizzy and vomiting. Even Once I had the dose right it didn't really help. If you do try it, use the lowest dose possible.
The vsl3, for me, works much better than nicotine.

Hi Montana,

I've been reading, with much interest,  your experiences.  You seem to be open to trying various methods to get your UC under control.  I have been doing a lot of reading on various treatments at the moment because I am currently going through a flare-up and I came across a product called MMS (Master Mineral Supplement).  Have you, or anyone else ever heard of this?  From my understanding, it is a chemical that attacks the anaerobic pathogens in our bodies (apparently most of the bad bacteria, moulds, fungi etc. in our bodies are anaerobic.  I am thinking about trying this chemical in enema form but would be very interested if you, or anyone else for that matter has tried this treatment.

 

^^ bump.

I did Kefir enemas for a while, following that Australian guy's recommendations, but it didn't prevent me from slipping into a flare after coming off prednisone. I got some VSL left over though, and am really considering trying that out.

2.5 year old thread - berkuc may be awol -

I think VSL3 retention enemas definitely help.. but if you can get bifido only powder it helps more.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2036.2005.02615.x/full

http://www.customprobiotics.com/custom-probiotics-b-lactis.htm You can stretch it much much longer because you are taking it by retention enema and would need less.

Obviously, Ive done this.. but who knows how it will effect you. Do you have a clean enema set up? No reusing fleet bottles and such.. atleast new plastic enema bags. The stainless steel bucket was a good investment for me. I personally believe in doing a type of enema that shall not be named.. then a cleansing enema.. then a small probiotic retention enema. If you read up on enemas many people use similar protocols .. ie Jini Patel http://blog.listentoyourgut.com/probiotic-retention-enema/ and your ancestors.

Only your ancestors did it the old fashioned way with yogurt enemas. Ask John Kellogg about what he did before he created breakfast cereals to help keep your bowels moving with it's whole grains ;)

I think Im in remission. I had a weird thing happen a month ago but I came back from it in 3 days.. before that I was having wellformed stool for 8 months with no blood or urgency as long as I adhered to a diet.

So, remission, yes.. I want to cure this tho.

I think it can be cured.

Here is my story and you can do with it what you will.

I wont go all the way back.. but just to this last flare. I was given antibiotics and 3 weeks later I started flaring, that flare lasted for over a year. I lost 70 lbs (I was overweight.. 5'4" and 190 lbs, and Ive gained back 10 since I hit remission.. which is perfect for me and I have no problem maintaining the weight.)

I didnt have cdiff and Ive been down all the GI roads but biologics so I did the following
1. Went Low Fodmaps
2. Started giving myself enemas. I had D, but it was due to bacteria, inflammaed and infected spots not alot of peristalsis. I have alot of proctitis issues.

With the enemas I started with bottled alkaline water, because Im lucky and have access to it cheaply.. then I added a little collodial to the water. But the times when I would sit on the toilet and my bottom would just drip what I can only describe as infection.. I had to do a very gentle castile cleansing enema, followed by a sterile water flush. Eventually I moved on to doing just a probiotic retention enema a couple times a week for another 6ish weeks
I probably had to keep up with the first protocol of enemas for about 6 weeks , every other day.
That treatment is what helped my lining start to heal and calmed down the inflammation.. kinda like pouring peroxide on a wound, and slathering on some neosporin. The food was huge though.. I could have done all the enemas in the world but if I was still eating food that was feeding the bad bugs I dont think it would have helped as much.
Anyway, that is my experience.

Post Edited (PathogenKiller) : 2/22/2013 11:13:37 PM (GMT-7)

I did low fodmaps for 4 months (no dairy, eggs - but moderate sugar in form of fruits and "unrefined sugars") then went to paleo, but that was way too meat heavy.. So now, I eat no dairy, soy, sugar or wheat.. grains and everything else in moderation. I hope to get the ability to eat everything back some day. A year and a half ago I was practically anaphalactic when I had to clean my flour bins out to throw the wheat away. I havent tried to eat wheat again but have been accidently glutened and the reactions are less severe now.. but I used to react to cruciferious veggies, veggies containing sulfur, high fiber veggies.. anything starchy.. it was a mess! I could eat chicken soup with no spice, just salt.. none of my beloved garlic and super cooked carrots, basically. Now I eat onions and garlic again.. and peppers. I loved spicy foods and so when I couldnt even eat a couple little dices of red onion in quacamole I was so sad... now I drink salsa like soup.

Im used this product because of my specific symptoms and concerns.
http://www.metagenics.com/mp/products/ultraflora-acute-care

suma, yeah i did 8 FTs. those made me a lot worse though so if i did them again, i'd only do it by a colonoscopy and with a different donor. i did them at home with Fleet enema bottles and obviously my donor and i's bacteria did not match whatsoever.

freddyj, i don't know... i used my aunt as a donor because nobody in my household would volunteer (annoying). i was a vegan at the time and i think my gut flora was so effed up from that so when my aunt's stool was introduced (she eats everything), it was like freaking hell.

VSL 3 enema works very well.
You need to put at last two packets of vsl powder in water, and make enema. If you have problem to find a container for enema, you can use the bottle of asacol clisma. Empty a bottle of asacol clisma and put inside water with VSL 3.
It will increase bowel flora directly. The VSL 3 taken orally it goes to be destroied from stomac acid and doesn't work...