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Posted 5/3/2012 7:41 PM (GMT 0)
I have suffered from UP for one year and a half. I almost never reach remission. Very recently my situation become worse and I don't know how to control it. I want to try acupuncture since all medications that i used have no obvious effects.

I am now moving to Ottawa, Canada and want to find a good acupuncture to help me get out of the situation. Friends from Ottawa, could you suggest a good acupuncture?

Post Edited (Dave2012) : 5/3/2012 1:44:01 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/3/2012 8:38 PM (GMT 0)
I'd save the 80$ per session and just prick the first layer of skin with needles myself... There is no benefit other then relaxing without moving an inch for 45 minutes. If you think different, show me some real research. Something acupuncturists do is suggest diet changes, which for UC would have the most benefit (not the actual needle pricking). Might be better off seeing a naturopathic doctor and see what they can do for your diet before you resort to pseudoscience.
Posted 5/3/2012 9:19 PM (GMT 0)
Since you are in Canada, my advice to you buy probiotic Mutaflor, which is the best probiotic on the market for people with UC. Here, in the USA, we are struggling and trying different ways to get it. Use your money on something that is proven to work for many people with UC, instead of acupuncture, which is probably a good thing overall for general health, but it will not put your colitis in remission. Just my opinion. I have used Mutaflor and I know it put me in remission.
Posted 5/3/2012 9:26 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for your suggestions. But I just want to try something different. This seems my last hope since medications do not work for me now. Actually I changed my diet towards the health way and took a lot of supplements. However, nothing seems work really even turmeric and probiotic. I feel so depressed about my situations.

ColitisMastery said...
I'd save the 80$ per session and just prick the first layer of skin with needles myself... There is no benefit other then relaxing without moving an inch for 45 minutes. If you think different, show me some real research. Something acupuncturists do is suggest diet changes, which for UC would have the most benefit (not the actual needle pricking). Might be better off seeing a naturopathic doctor and see what they can do for your diet before you resort to pseudoscience.

Posted 5/3/2012 9:27 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you ! If possible, could you tell me whether probiotic mutaflor is better than VLS #3??? I tried VLS #3 for a long time but without any luck.

lookforcure said...
Since you are in Canada, my advice to you buy probiotic Mutaflor, which is the best probiotic on the market for people with UC. Here, in the USA, we are struggling and trying different ways to get it. Use your money on something that is proven to work for many people with UC, instead of acupuncture, which is probably a good thing overall for general health, but it will not put your colitis in remission. Just my opinion. I have used Mutaflor and I know it put me in remission.

Posted 5/3/2012 9:39 PM (GMT 0)
Much better! I took both, so I can compare. VSL never worked as well for me as Mutaflor. Buy it, I highly suggest it . It is available in Canada.
Posted 5/3/2012 9:45 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you very much. I looked at your post before and my order of terminal clay will be arriving tomorrow! I will order Mutaflor online today!

Cross my finger and hope I will have some improvement. I feel really bad now!

lookforcure said...
Much better! I took both, so I can compare. VSL never worked as well for me as Mutaflor. Buy it, I highly suggest it . It is available in Canada.

Posted 5/3/2012 10:12 PM (GMT 0)
Like I said, I'd prick myself with needles and lay still for an hour... Its free and not a waste of 80$ (unless you're rich)... And most accupuncturist would ask about your UC and suggest diet stuff, none would only do acupuncture and leave you, you'd never go back.

What have you done for diet? Some people switch to a "healthy" diet which can be more aggravating. What is you're average meal plan for the day?
Posted 5/3/2012 10:30 PM (GMT 0)
I took Omega-3, Turmeric, Flex Seed Oil, and a variety of supplements like grep seed. But I saw no improvement actually.

I eat brown rice, oats, berries, cauliflower, sweet potato, spinach... all anti-inflammatory food. I tried SCD and VLS #3 before but without any luck.

I am now trying Mesalazine enema. I was only able to hold it for around 2 hours in the day. I don't know how long it takes to see difference........I am very very depressed now.

Thank you very much!

ColitisMastery said...
Like I said, I'd prick myself with needles and lay still for an hour... Its free and not a waste of 80$ (unless you're rich)... And most accupuncturist would ask about your UC and suggest diet stuff, none would only do acupuncture and leave you, you'd never go back.

What have you done for diet? Some people switch to a "healthy" diet which can be more aggravating. What is you're average meal plan for the day?

Posted 5/3/2012 10:40 PM (GMT 0)
Dave2012,
I am glad to hear that your will have both Terramin and Mutaflor. Just re-read my post about how to start with the clay, so your body adjust to it. First 2-3 days only "clay water", not the heavier part. Give the settled part to your dog or cat, by mixing a little of it in their food or put it in your flower bed, or make a facial mask. So, you will take 1 tsp. in a glass of water/ 3 times per day.... Just read my post about it.
When you will receive Mutaflor, you will be taking it after breakfast. The main thing is not to take them together( I mean the clay and Mutaflor), just in case. Wait at least 1 hour in between.
I hope and pray it will help you!
P.S. ColitisMastery,
i love that you do raw juicing, I am a big fan of apple-celery-carrot juice myself!
Posted 5/3/2012 10:51 PM (GMT 0)
Dave2012,
I have just looked at what you are taking and eating. I would say be careful with berries, they have seeds and a lot of fiber and could be very irritating to your inflamed colon. At least they are irritating to my colon.
Also, I would stop all the supplements for now, since you did not see any improvement any way, but they might be irritating too. I can tell you that at one point I was taking about 10 different supplements and I felt even worse. Just focus on Terramin clay and Mutaflor and a gentle diet. Try not to eat raw foods at all, only some raw juice.
Posted 5/3/2012 10:57 PM (GMT 0)
Lookforcure,

Thank you very much! I will follow your suggestions and see what will happen. I will keep you posted and update my information as soon as possible. Regarding the experiment period, what is your suggestions? I should try 1 month or 2 weeks is enough?

Best,

David
Posted 5/3/2012 11:03 PM (GMT 0)
By the way, do not worry about taking any mineral supplements, you will get all minerals you need from Terramin clay. If it is good for the NASA's astronauts to take Terramin to prevent and reverse osteoporosis, it is good for us with colitis. Wright?
Posted 5/3/2012 11:07 PM (GMT 0)
David, are you talking about Terramin or Mutaflor? Or both?
You should feel an improvement by the end of the 1st week. I can not promise you will have the same result as I did, but it will get better. By the end of the month, you should be in remission or very close to it.
Posted 5/3/2012 11:38 PM (GMT 0)
I will start with Terramin tomorrow night. I will start a week later with Mutaflor.
I will look into your post very carefully as an instruction.

lookforcure said...
David, are you talking about Terramin or Mutaflor? Or both?
You should feel an improvement by the end of the 1st week. I can not promise you will have the same result as I did, but it will get better. By the end of the month, you should be in remission or very close to it.

Posted 5/4/2012 12:09 AM (GMT 0)
Dave2012,
I like your plan to let the clay to detox your body first and prepare it for good bacteria in Mutaflor. You might have some detox symptoms. Just post any questions and I will do my best to help you.
Good luck!
Posted 5/4/2012 11:32 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you, lookforcure.

I will let you know my progress every other day.
Posted 5/4/2012 12:08 PM (GMT 0)
Good luck with Mutaflor. It happens to be one of the few probiotics that would actually flare me up- go figure. I really had nigh hopes for it but it actually flared me- then again most things do. At least I tolerate VSL3 well- but I have no clue if it is worth it. has more CFU than any of the others availabke in the US but It has not been a magic bullet for me.

As for acupuncture- by all means give it a try... Just don't let them slin you along endlessly. i'd say if you dont notice any relief within a couple months of sessions then definitely scrap it... Since you have UP and not full blown UC you might first try natural enemas- eg lecithin, aloe, glutamine, vit E, there are various things to try... but I gather you have tried medical enemas without results so I dont blame you for wanting to try things like
acupuncture. And obviously some benefit from Mutaflor so you could try it and if you tolerate it, it might help. also consider trying LDN.
Posted 5/4/2012 12:14 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,
I'm very new here but I hope it's OK to chime in. I've had wonderful results with accupuncture for other problems, namely spastic muscles in my back. It has effects for things like headaches too. Personally, I think anything is worth a try particularly if it's non toxic.

One of the amazing 'side effects' I experienced with accupuncture was an incredible improvement in my vision. It seems short lived, but it happens with nearly every treatment.

You could also give something called EFT, which is a spinoff of accupuncture, a try. It is simple and free and works for many.

Best!
Posted 5/4/2012 12:29 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Dave,
I lived in Ottawa and have tried about five different TCM practitioners for my daughter, but unfortunately none were in Ottawa. I searched fairly extensively but didn't come up with anyone who sounded like they knew anything about treating IBD and I think the key to success is expertise. We did not try acupuncture (though I've used it before myself for other issues with surprising success) but we have tried herbs/teas/diet (some suggest a diet to go along with their treatment and others don't at all). WHile nothing has put my daughter in remission, we've by far had the best results with TCM. I would suggest you look around and try it - it is expensive though especially if things have to be sent to you. Good luck.
Posted 5/4/2012 4:39 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you so much. Have you tried the clay?

I can tolerate VSL3, but I noticed no difference. I actually got the UP after injecting a lot of antibiotic, but I had no improvement when using VSL3 probiotic.

I am now in the acupuncture, notice no difference after 3 week's treatment. I am now moving to Ottawa and I still want to try it for a while

Probiotic said...
Good luck with Mutaflor. It happens to be one of the few probiotics that would actually flare me up- go figure. I really had nigh hopes for it but it actually flared me- then again most things do. At least I tolerate VSL3 well- but I have no clue if it is worth it. has more CFU than any of the others availabke in the US but It has not been a magic bullet for me.

As for acupuncture- by all means give it a try... Just don't let them slin you along endlessly. i'd say if you dont notice any relief within a couple months of sessions then definitely scrap it... Since you have UP and not full blown UC you might first try natural enemas- eg lecithin, aloe, glutamine, vit E, there are various things to try... but I gather you have tried medical enemas without results so I dont blame you for wanting to try things like
acupuncture. And obviously some benefit from Mutaflor so you could try it and if you tolerate it, it might help. also consider trying LDN.

Posted 5/4/2012 4:42 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, Lodi,

Thank you so much. Have you tried acupuncture specifically for UC？ Why EFT is free???

Best!

Lodi said...
Hi,
I'm very new here but I hope it's OK to chime in. I've had wonderful results with accupuncture for other problems, namely spastic muscles in my back. It has effects for things like headaches too. Personally, I think anything is worth a try particularly if it's non toxic.

One of the amazing 'side effects' I experienced with accupuncture was an incredible improvement in my vision. It seems short lived, but it happens with nearly every treatment.

You could also give something called EFT, which is a spinoff of accupuncture, a try. It is simple and free and works for many.

Best!

Posted 5/4/2012 4:47 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, Killcolitis,

I have tried TCM before, but I am unable to continue due to my busy work. I know it will be helpful, but to control it it takes very long. It is truly expensive here, also the acupuncture. I cost around 50 per time on it. You said you tried acupuncture before? If possible, could you tell me which doctor you tried in Ottawa?

All the best to your daughter!



killcolitis said...
Hi Dave,
I lived in Ottawa and have tried about five different TCM practitioners for my daughter, but unfortunately none were in Ottawa. I searched fairly extensively but didn't come up with anyone who sounded like they knew anything about treating IBD and I think the key to success is expertise. We did not try acupuncture (though I've used it before myself for other issues with surprising success) but we have tried herbs/teas/diet (some suggest a diet to go along with their treatment and others don't at all). WHile nothing has put my daughter in remission, we've by far had the best results with TCM. I would suggest you look around and try it - it is expensive though especially if things have to be sent to you. Good luck.

Posted 5/4/2012 4:55 PM (GMT 0)
TCM dr? I couldn't find one in Ottawa - there is one in Toronto and I've also used others in China and the US. I know it takes a lot of time and money. It is crazy? As for GIs in Ottawa, we were at CHEO.
Good luck to you. I hope you find something that works.
Posted 5/4/2012 8:44 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Dave2012,
I think you might like to read this article by Dr. David Williams:
http://www.drdavidwilliams.com/treat-diarrhea-naturally#try_clay
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