Importance of Diet and UC

I find it very interesting. Have you read Dr. T. Colin Campbell's book
"The China study"? (http://www.thechinastudy.com/)
The majority of libraries have this book. I find it very informative.

Have not read the Chins Study,but there are a few people with knowledable backrounds debunking it.
Old Mike

Hey Somedude all good questions:
I have posted some links where a child,can get predisopsition from its mother,brestfeeding can do this,depending
on the mothers diet.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18240547
Genetics might play a big roll in who gets what when.
As far as infection, yes I believe that it is possible,from the T-Bet mouse study.
Also believe that excess protein getting to the distal colon,shifts the bacterial population to putrefaction bacteria,
which have a lot of protease,which then dissolves your mucus barrier,then the bacteria translocate and set up the immine cascade. The reason the immune cascade does not shut off, might be because you keep eating protein and the bacteria
are still there disolving your mucus.
This might be why FT works, it corrects that population,might be why antibiotics work on some people.
Perhaps there is more than one or two causes of UC.,or forms of UC.
We can see that asians, who have low UC in say Japan,will come here and get UC,is that diet or infection.
We know there was little UC in the USA prior to 1920 is that diet or a new bug,or someting else.

Thatfield: From my other threads too much of any protein might cause protein fermentaion in the colon.

Do you eat lots of veggie oils and nuts.

Old Mike

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 5/6/2012 5:07:08 PM (GMT-6)

Hey OldMike, you may be interested in watching the movie Forks over Knives. Have you seen it? Really talks about how in general we are eating way too much protein (vegetarian or not). Some really really good data included in the documentary.

It's on netflix if you have that.

I've read the mediterranean diet is the way to go...

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/the-mediterranean-diet

It's been my experience that diet does notjing for me- good or bad. I could eat organic granola and unicorn pee or Twinkies fried in lard with no discernable effect on my UC. It's all a crap shoot as to what works...

Ima,

You're absolutely right about the China Study.

Probiotic,

You're right about the Atkins craze.

I remember people were eating loads of bacon, meats, eggs, etc... many processed meats and none were organic or grass-fed - this was not a good idea.

BeautUC- you are dead on that its the immune response- but the point of all those articles Old Mike has been posting is that diet, especially things at the micro-level like omega 6/omega 3 ratio, has a huge impact on the immune response. A lot of room to optimize a diet on the macro-scale both for meat eaters and vegetarians though, rather than an either / or. (For my part, I sure wish I could be a vegan, in ethical terms for animals and for the environment... Alas I happen to do much better on a low carb paleo diet UC-wise... I agree that which diet at the macro level we do best on in many ways is unique to each person's genes.)

Oh, I would love to see all the nasty additives in foods go away. Maybe the FDA could ban everything that isn't naturally occurring. about 2 years ago I became an obsessive food label reader. I had alwas pretty much assumed that if I bought a can of beans, that it would contain beans and water and nothing else. Or that a can of tomato sauce would be pretty much just tomatoes. Ha! It's amazing how many products contain sugar, high fructose corn syrup, soybean oil, and so many other things I can't pronounce. I now cook everything from scratch, even the beans, and I belive it has made a big difference with my health. I've always considered myself a healthy eater, but now I've gone super obsessive healthy. Makes it hard to eat out or at other people's houses, though.
I think of all the bags of potato chips and other junk I ate as a kid. Ugh.
Also I don't think it matters as much if you are vegetarian or meat eating, it's the quality of the food that matters most. As well as listening to your own body and finding your own response to particular foods.

I had been thinking to keep this for myself until I have verified for a longer time... I do not want to lead people into a ditch. However, because of this topic, I think I need to write something.

I have had a lot of problem because of gas. Sharts has been very common for me. The diet change I did completely changed this part, and it feels like I am on my way to get better.

Shortly: It looks like indeed diet has effect. I am not a raw vegan, but I am trying to follow the rules (in a bit loose way) from this site: http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/digestive-physiology-and-food-combining/food-combining-rules.html (basically Hay diet)

I noticed immediately that my gas problem disappeared. When I begun this change, I had almost two days without a need to go to the toilet. This was because I had the intestine almost completely empty as everything was blown out by gas. It took some time to fill it again. I could even verify before that food got blown out sometimes in just two hours from that I had been eating. Now I have still about 4 bowl moments each day, but I even start to get some consistence in my poop and I do not get out more than at most one meal at the time with the rest still in the intestine.

There are basically 4 short rules I am following (the site has some more and complicated):
1. When you eat concentrated proteins (soy, nuts), eat it with no-starchy veggies (and do not mix in anything else)
2. When you eat starchy food, eat them with other starchy food and/or no-starchy veggies (and do not mix in anything else)
3. Eat fruits in a separate meal, and melon does not combine with any other fruits
4. Avoid adding much fats to the food, and add in moderation when needed (good fats like olive oil, flax-seed oil etc, nuts already have very much fats, so does avocado and other food eaten)

(I am vegan, not raw vegan like the site suggest, so I omitted meat, eggs and milk from my rules as I anyway do not eat them)

Well, it is still too early to say how my diet change is working, but I will, as I have been intending, write a report later when I feel confident enough to write. All I can say is that it is looking like worth giving some try for somebody not afraid of a ditch. For me this has been working better than SCD.

(That site I linked to has also a lot of other information, some really good, some I consider to be rubbish).

Post Edited (engblom) : 5/7/2012 8:30:44 AM (GMT-6)

Old Mike:
Knowing what you know, have you had any success in resolving your son's UC (I'm guessing you don't have UC but your son does and you've been researching facts and studies to help him?) using the low sulfur diets? Reducing proteins helping?

I appreciate your help.