fecal transplant help

i did my first FT this morning and ive been feeling like crap all day. very sick to my stomach and high fever. i can't eat anything and i'm worried.

did anyone else have this reaction? i was going to do one tomorrow but not if i am still like this.

thanks for your input, edbar.

i held the enema for 3.5 hours but it wasn't large. i did almost a whole fleet enema (4.5 oz). it was really hard for me to hold it at first so i had to make a new enema. luckily, my mom did everything for me- she is such a trooper. we used saline solution, a small smoothie blender, psyllium husk, and the sample. i took 2 immodium beforehand and i'm wondering if that is what is making me sick. i have never taken immodium before and it's not helping my symptoms at all.

my donor wants to remain completely anonymous. she is very healthy though. eats a high fiber diet with lots of vegetarian items. although she did tell me she ate pork tenderloin last night. i have not eaten meat since i was 17 and am thinking maybe i should sift out the stool before i use it just to remove as much of the food as i can.

no, at the moment, my doctor said it could take a few more months to happen. i was just really sick of hearing their excuses because i've been asking since february.

my donor's doctor wouldn't even approve of the bloodwork. she said she'd never heard of this procedure and thought it was fraud. my doctor even wrote the prescription for her to take and they didn't believe it was a real pad.

bananagirl said...
my donor's doctor wouldn't even approve of the bloodwork. she said she'd never heard of this procedure and thought it was fraud. my doctor even wrote the prescription for her to take and they didn't believe it was a real pad.

So I take it from this you didn't have your donor screened?

I'm pretty sure it's a normal reaction you are having. I mean it's more normal to HAVE a reaction than to not have one. You did introduce different bacteria in your colon and such. I would wait 1-2 days see if you're feeling better then do it again.

That's ridiculous (borderline unethical) that the doctor wouldn't do the bloodwork. I tend to agree with Somedude maybe wait a day or so.
After you put the enema in try to lie on your left side on an incline (30 degrees) so that your bum is higher than your head. Stay like this for 10 minutes then go on your back then front then right side all for 10 minutes and all with your bum higher than your head. This will help the enema flow to the start of the colon and should help you retain it easier.

i get sick just thinking about doing it !
i wouldn't worry yet - if i remember, i think my first poo-plant made me feel a little funky - but it didn't last -
keep at it - you'll get a handle on the learning curve - messy goes without saying - part of the fun !

Joanna, I know it's easier said than done but try to be relaxed when doing FT. Climbing your legs up the wall doesn't sound too comfortable. For my son I use a mattress that I took off the bed base and leaned one long end on the edge of the bed base. Then lie on the mattress with your head lower than your bum. This way you can lie comfortably and turn to the different sides easily.

It's will take some practice but if you stick with it you should be an expert. We've been at it for over 5 months now!

Hi! I had a similar reaction when I tried probiotic enemas. My tip is to add some turmeric. After I started doing that, I had no bad reaction at all (but the enema really didn’t help much…).

well, my fever is gone this morning. i sweat it out over night. still have watery stools but i am going to do another FT in a few minutes.

pupluv, i am following borody's formula and it says to use 1/2 tsp of psyllium husk.

knasjevul, i will add turmeric to my food today to see if that helps. i also tried probiotic enemas but they didn't help.

the main thing i notice today is the smell of my poop. it literally smells like something died inside me haha i had to open the window this morning because i thought i would throw up from the smell.

edbar, i will probably not do the leg climbing thing for long today. it made my legs fall asleep and was not comfortable at all. i was just hoping that gravity would push everything back up my colon. how long did it take your son to notice a positive difference?

oh ok. i have never heard of that before but it doesn't surprise me the stuff we put up our butts haha

Hi Bananagirl,
Sorry to hear that your first attempt didn't go well. Well, it's good news that your fever is gone today. I hope today is better for you after the second one.

bananagirl said...
edbar, i will probably not do the leg climbing thing for long today. it made my legs fall asleep and was not comfortable at all. i was just hoping that gravity would push everything back up my colon. how long did it take your son to notice a positive difference?

Try the mattress way that I mentioned earlier. It works well.

When we started FT my son had just been 3 weeks in hospital when he was on IV pred and vanco. So he was pretty much under control with his flare. He was on high dose of oral pred also when we went home. We continued him on the pred during FT and we did a very slow wean. Almost immediately his poos looked like mine and they were a mix of formed and mushy. Before we started FT his poos were already getting hard and pellety (constipated) which was usually a bad sign for him. So I think if your poo is looking and smelling like your donor that's a good sign. The blood gradually reduced with FT over time and probably after 3 weeks it was down to only very small traces of blood. The mucus took a bit longer and even now we see some now and again (mind you I see mucus in my own stool when mixing). His energy greatly improved after maybe 2-3 weeks.

So don't expect too many immediate results; after all your colon has been inflamed and ulcerated for a long time so you can imagine how long it will take to heal. Just keep doing the enemas.

I noticed that you were having 8 BMs a day before. There is one protocol for FT that recommends taking prednisone while doing FTs since this will control the symptoms and reduce the number of BMs. I'm not suggesting you go on pred but it is one thing worth considering if you find your BMs aren't reducing or your symptoms aren't improving.

I wouldn't add turmuric to the enema. You really don't know what that does to the good bacteria you are trying colonize.