Faith through flares

Personally I do not feel offended by a religious post - and I'm not even religious. Spiritual perhaps. But we all need something to believe in and that is not such a bad thing. However, brief mentions of God, Buddha or whatever deity you worship is acceptable just as long as you do not try to convert people or disrespect someone else's belief.

If a reference to "faith" or "God" offends someone, then simply don't read the posts or participate in the conversations. All of the posts have a subject line that can be viewed before you decide to read or comment. Personally, other people's beliefs or lifestyles do not offend me at all. That's what makes this country so great, we have the right to believe in whatever we choose and lets not forget that we have "freedom of speech" to verbalize our beliefs. The constitution doesn't say anything about freedom of speech unless it offends someone. What if I were offended by "Vegans" or people who pushed medications on other people? This forum spends a lot of time talking about medications, diet, stress, and lifestyle. If I were offended by a certain diet, medication or lifestyle, then I could simply choose not to view that discussion. Why does everything have to be so complicated?!!

Have we lost all common sense?! Personally, I take offense to being told that we can't have discussions about how God, Buddha, or whoever your higher power is. If certain meds, lifestyle factors, Faith, or diet help people cope with this disease, then it should be included in their posts. No-one should feel that they have to walk on egg shells because they pray to their higher power. In God I trust!

Maccawings said...
It's no-one's position to tell other people what they should or should not be offended by.

If someone finds something, in this case religion, offensive then they are well within their rights to say that.

I find it offensive that creationism is taught in certain faith schools in lieu of proper science. Am I not allowed to express my opinion and beliefs too?

If god truly cared he would never have bestowed such a debilitating, humiliating and often painful disease upon us. That is my belief.

I think you may be missing the point. The point is that everyone is entitled to believe in whatever they choose to believe in or be a non-believer, doesn't matter to me. In this great country that we live in, you absolutely have the freedom to be offended by creationism if that is your belief. But you also have the option to not engage in conversation such as this one if creationism bothers you. That being said, its just a matter of everyone having the freedom to voice their opinions. No different than if I were a vegan and was completely offended by people talking about how eating meat cured their..... whatever disease. If I don't agree then I can choose to say that or I can choose to not be involved in their conversation.

Maccawings said...
It's no-one's position to tell other people what they should or should not be offended by.

If someone finds something, in this case religion, offensive then they are well within their rights to say that.

I find it offensive that creationism is taught in certain faith schools in lieu of proper science. Am I not allowed to express my opinion and beliefs too?

If god truly cared he would never have bestowed such a debilitating, humiliating and often painful disease upon us. That is my belief.

This is where it gets completely off topic, whether the topic is about religion, politics or medical vs natural treatment, when someone interrupts a positive discussion by saying 'its offensive, is what gets others ticking. This discussion was directed towards absolutely no single person on this forum.

There may be some nay-sayers of this forum on the topic of "UC Surgery" with negative opinions, but you don't see them going into these threads marking them as offensive, do you?

By the way, your statement on God and disease was offensive to me. That is a direct, derogatory and offensive statement.

So, you're not here to talk about UC?


Again, another problem...maybe you'd be better to seek a forum that's faith oriented where people believe that God has control is all aspects of our lives.

q

what i don't understand is why if a topic is not something you like, want to talk about or read about, why choose to go there ? especially if you've read and reponded before - don't like the subject matter, move on to something you do want to see - seems pretty simple to me - and it's not like there are only a certain number of threads that can be started every day - i think they are unlimited right - so it's not like this one thread is jamming up the works or keeping you from starting your own if you so desire - this forum is about what helps in dealing with this nasty, life altering disease, and sharing about those things - geez everyone, lighten up

oh, and thank you Sherry -

The basic recognitions of life where people will get into HEATED arguments are religion and politics. Because people will always say something that is offensive to someone else.  This thread has already touched on both.

What it seems that many are missing is that anything that's posted here is open to others' opinions, either supportive or not supportive. We all have the right to comment regardless.   So if you put it out there, expect to have it read and commented on.

It's nice for some, not so nice for others.....

If we get into heated arguments about the basics such as food and medications, what makes anyone think this is a safe topic?

And soystud? lighten up??? one never will about this topic.

q

Quincy said :

The basic recognitions of life where people will get into HEATED arguments are religion and politics. Because people will always say something that is offensive to someone else. This thread has already touched on both.

---- being offensive and being offended are two entirely different cats - just because someone is offended by something i say, doesn't mean that what i said was offensive -

---- this thread began as a way for one person to share what helps them through the tough things in life - if it was hostess ding-dongs, would that be offensive, and would we still be here  - i suppose if you didn't believe in the existence of dd's or like the taste of  them, well then i guess you could be offended -

---- maybe they could find a ding-dong forum to share -

What it seems that many are missing is that anything that's posted here is open to others' opinions, either supportive or not supportive. We all have the right to comment regardless. So if you put it out there, expect to have it read and commented on.

---- i don't recall anyone saying anything even close to contradicting that -

It's nice for some, not so nice for others.....

If we get into heated arguments about the basics such as food and medications, what makes anyone think this is a safe topic?

---- i'm not sure anyone has a problem with debating a subject .... but this wasn't a question of whether having a relationship with Jesus/God would help fight this illness - it was one person sharing with others -

---- you're the one who's saying " take this somewhere else " -

And soystud? lighten up??? one never will about this topic.

---- well, you're probably right -

---- so which is it - respectful debate, or cry foul over being offended and say " don't make me read this, it offends me " ?

 

soystud said...
Heather , Fruitgirl, ........

i still can't understand why you are still posting on this thread, let alone even looking past the word " faith" in the topic, and the word "God" in the first line, if you don't believe in God or want to hear about Him ?

you are not Moderators, correct ?

what is the attraction ?

(scratcin' head profusely)

Lonnie

What do you mean you don't know.

This is a topic with a controversial subject. Politics, religion, etc etc.

People will click on this and post their opinion on the matter regardless if you like it or not. A controversial subject will drag people in pretty fast...you can't ...ignore it lol

hey dude -

it's not about liking or not liking your opinion - it's about telling me i should take mine somewhere else -

why is this so confusing ?

To everyone who is upset because they feel this topic is overly religious I would just like to point out the only time I have even talked about religion is when I was explaining that I was not trying to force it on anyone. I feel that my relationship with Jesus is based more on relation than religion anyways. Once again thanks everyone for commenting and having an actual discussion instead of just cussing each other out! Im new to this site and I am pretty impressed with how everyone is seeming to at least attempt to control lashing out! And feel free to answer the original question I'd still like to know of people who are depending on there faith to get them through this stuff! Still praying for all of you!

Godsall: whatever one believes in to help them get through this disease is ok. Faith comes in many forms and is different for everyone, just like this disease is.

Having said that, let's stick to educating about this disease. Thanks!