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Posted 9/27/2012 7:12 AM (GMT 0)
Hey people!

I recently watched the documentary Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead.

I was wondering if anyone has tried the fast or just drink natural juice regularly.

What are your thoughts on jucing?
Posted 9/27/2012 11:44 AM (GMT 0)
What is the purpose of why you are considering this? I'm assuming it is due to UC but I'm curious as to your train of thought and what you are hoping it would do for you. I don't know if you can get a useful answer because everyone is so different. I must confess that I know nothing about the documentary you mentioned. This may help some with UC but then others it may be the absolutely wrong thing to do. I guess you have to figure out which one you are first before trying, and that may not be easy.
Posted 9/27/2012 11:58 AM (GMT 0)
I tried juicing for 3 months during a flare.
It made things so much worse, I had to stop.
It seems to me that when the colon is so inflamed, the juice only irritated things more and at least with food (mild stuff like oatmeal) it can have a calming effect.
Posted 9/27/2012 12:01 PM (GMT 0)
One possible reason to get worse on veggie juice and or lots of veggies,see my thread here.

Nitrates and nitrites,generating excess nitric oxide.

Old Mike

https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=2503059

 

Posted 9/27/2012 12:22 PM (GMT 0)
I havent seen it either, but I don't think it would be a good way to control weight. You would probably lose weight at first, but its not healthy and juice can put on pounds really fast.
I would also think the juice would irritate the UC, I couldn't drink it at all. And people can use things like grape juice and Apple juice and prune juice as natural laxatives.
Posted 9/27/2012 1:08 PM (GMT 0)
juicing with veggies, not fruit -
Posted 9/27/2012 1:44 PM (GMT 0)
i haven't seen this movie but i followed david klein's juicing protocol which is "drink only juice until you have no symptoms." i tried this for 6 weeks and was so hungry and delirious that i couldn't go on with it any longer. also, it didn't help my flare at all.
Posted 9/27/2012 1:46 PM (GMT 0)
When I think of juicing I think of the retreat spas in the forest stars go to for a week to only have juices and saunas! And they come back with a special glow and of course they can fit in their gala dress.

Most of those people have a normal colon. You don't.

When it comes to diet and UC you can't see yourself like the others. If most benefits from a diet high in fiber it might not work for you simply because you have inflammation in the colon. Bare in mind all those fibers could be rough for your colon lining.

I would suggest if you want to do juicing to choose a few vegs or fruits (in moderation) that agrees with you and maybe replace one meal a day with it. You could have a full breakfast, a lovely lunch and juicing in the evening with lets say a bowl of rice or something.

All those advertised methods to desintox your colon and body are usually not advised for people with uc.

And for last if ever you decide to do it ask your doctor about it. The only time I would juice of fast is if im in a bad flare. I would usually only be able to eat jello and juices but then again who eats a lot when sick?
Posted 9/27/2012 1:46 PM (GMT 0)
It may work for a bit, but I see this as just another fad diet, do thos for so many months, and lose a ton o weight. Problem is when you go back to your normal way of eating, the weight goes back on. My advice, just eat healthier and workout, add in some juicong, but I wouldn't only go that way, it just doens't seem like something you could do long term.
Posted 9/27/2012 1:51 PM (GMT 0)
Also I forgot to add those diets tend to make normal people poop a lot so they kind of feel lighter! thats the last thing you want when you are on UC.
Posted 9/27/2012 2:00 PM (GMT 0)
the movie was about losing weight and dealing with chronic something (i don't remember what it was) -

he wasn't saying drink only juice the rest of your life, it was just a treatment - and according to the documentary, it worked -

it's a tool, just like any other - if used wisely, it can be of great benefit - if used with no discretion, it can be detrimental -

i've had awesome success juicing -
Posted 9/27/2012 2:03 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry I didn't know you meant veggies, when I think juice I think fruit! But I still think it would be hard on your stomach. Just because you liqiuify a food doesn't mean its a different food. If you cant digest it whole without problems, then its probably gonna be the same in liquid form.
Posted 9/27/2012 2:05 PM (GMT 0)
Can you juice meat, potatoes, vegs and gravy?
Posted 9/27/2012 3:08 PM (GMT 0)
it's much easier to digest a food if it is already pre-digested - that is what juicing does - it breaks it down, and removes much of the fiber -

at least that's how my little brain sees it - and for me, it works -

can't and won't say it will work for you -
Posted 9/27/2012 3:21 PM (GMT 0)
"can you juice meat, potatoes, vegs and gravy?"

absolutely -

but ....... that sounds pretty gross - which means i guess i'll have to try it :-)

typically tho, i try to adhere to food combining rules and not eat meat and starch in the same meal - but juicing it may help -

so would you drink it cold or warm ?
Posted 9/27/2012 4:02 PM (GMT 0)
mmmmm it is so tempting! It's just back to baby food! Why cook extra for a baby when you can blend your leftovers?
And then one spoon for baby mmm one spoon for mother ***blurghhhh
Posted 9/27/2012 4:15 PM (GMT 0)
just the way God intended it - makes so much sense -
Posted 9/27/2012 4:39 PM (GMT 0)
That's right!
Posted 9/27/2012 4:43 PM (GMT 0)
Some people had good results with juicing for UC : http://www.knowyourgut.com/how-juicing-saved-my-life/

I have seen the movie, and they did not present juice fasting as a miracle cure or a miracle weight loss tool, but as a way to "reboot" your health and start new healthy eating habits.

I hade tried a juice fast for 6 days and did not see much difference, altough I wasn't in a flare. Almost all the fiber is removed when you juice, so I was lucky if I had one bowel movement per day (and I drank A LOT of juice). Some people experience the opposite.

Post Edited (boumboumbambino) : 9/27/2012 10:50:04 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 9/27/2012 4:56 PM (GMT 0)
I really don't quite get juicing, why not just eat the food?
It seems really wasteful to throw away all the fibre and pulp, which is great for the colon in general and has been proven to be beneficial to those of us w/ IBD.
Posted 9/27/2012 5:03 PM (GMT 0)
you're right, but in a sense it was a miracle for him - he did indeed get his life back -

and my poops are great when i juice - haven't paid much attention to whether or not it affects my frequency -

chocolate affects my frequency - i know that for sure :-0
Posted 9/27/2012 5:11 PM (GMT 0)
"I really don't quite get juicing, why not just eat the food?
It seems really wasteful to throw away all the fibre and pulp, which is great for the colon in general and has been proven to be beneficial to those of us w/ IBD."



uh, cuz it tastes yummy ! why else indeed !

you're right, it drives me crazy to throw out all that great pulp - but the garden and donkeys seem to like it -

and for some, it's no different than eating super ripe fruit or steamed veggies - the more it's already broken down, the easier it is for some to digest - and like i said, it's only one part of the total healthy diet that works for me - plus you still get the benefits of raw food - that is all the enzymes somewhat still intact -

plus it tastes yummy - did i already say that ?
Posted 9/27/2012 5:30 PM (GMT 0)
I watched that documentary about a month ago and a couple others about how juicing/diet etc. can change your life/health. I got totally inspired, went out and bought a juicer and tried it. Had the intent to do it for 10-30 days, got to about 5. Ha! First few days were okay, but the last couple before I caved were tough. Could think of NOTHING other than food and chewing. That said, I didn't intake nearly as many calories as you should on that plan. I'd have a 10 oz glass of green juice for breakfast and again for dinner and that's it, so it makes sense that I was starving. I stopped my meds (mesalamine) while I was on it and noticed no ill effects. My poop changed (turned liquidy, but I didn't have full-on diarrhea), but from the reading I did, that was to be expected considering I was taking in only liquids. I do plan on trying it again in the near future.
Posted 9/27/2012 5:41 PM (GMT 0)
first thing : congrats for 5 days - that is totally awesome !

second: so do you consider it a success ?

third: yes, please consider doing it on a regular basis - not a replacement for other foods necessarily, just in addition to - once or twice a week or even one meal a day depending on what else you are eating -

and it definitely won't put a lot of weight on - so that's why i don't do it as often as i'd like - i can't hardly keep anything in my pockets as it is -
Posted 9/27/2012 6:09 PM (GMT 0)
I think juicing is a great way to get some extra vitamins and minerals through real food! I'm doing alot of Bolthouse Farm and Odwalla recently (not pure juice, but as close as I can get without a juicer). Do you have a favorite juicing recipe? What kind of juicer do you use? Is it hard to clean?
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