cautiously optimistic about Wild Oregano Oil (85% Carvacrol) Part II

Hi Mark

Sorry for the slow response. I got your message but have been travelling, so difficult to reply..

Thanks so much for the update too.

I surely hope that you choose to drop the Imuran before the WOO..

It is interesting to know how long you have been taking the WOO/Thyme for though.

So, an update from me:

I took the WOO for around 3 weeks. I had significant improvements, including no more bleeding, no more pain and formed stools. Things were looking good but i still had the mucous and rumbling, and the most annoying thing for me was not being able to simply pass wind without sitting on the loo for fear of following through, which was pretty much happening every time still..

So, I was feeling impatient and decided that a logical step would be to do some faecal transplants. I was feeling that the WOO had cleared out the bad and it was time to repopulate with good bacteria. Idid an aloe enema to flush out, I changed my diet to high fibre and begun the FTs.

After day 3 of FTs I was ready to post here and tell everyone the amazing success I'd had. I really felt it had worked. I had a whole day of perfectly formed stools and no other symptoms, including being able to just pass wind.. that simple but incredibly great pleasure!! But alas, sadly by day 4, symptoms were coming back.. I stopped the FTs prematurely since I was going away and I knew it wouldn't be possible to continue. Bad timing, but it was out of my hands.

So, I've been away, and things started getting bad again, with more blood then i've ever had and pain returning.


Fortunately though I had taken the WOO with me. I started up again. Straight back into the high dose. I'm still bleeding a little but things have improved so much in just 4 days. I'm just now back from travels so I'm ordering more. I'm now out of WOO, and so it'll be 3 days or so before I can continue. I am feeling so much better though, and very grateful for your post because it encouraged me to try it again.

So, I’m not sure but I really think that the WOO is the right thing for me. I’m going to continue for some time, along with the probiotics. Hopefully until I get to a point of no symptoms. Then maybe try the FT again. Certainly need to persist with the WOO for longer though, like you’ve done.

I will keep updating.

Thanks again

Hi everybody,

I'm french, so excuse my english :)
I'm really impressed by the miracle made by WOO, I have a moderate UC and I am excited by a cure of this natural product.

Do you have to take it all your life like pentasa or pred, or do you take it only when you're on crisis with blood and pain ?

As it acts like an antibiotic I think it's better not to take it for a long time or it will finally eradicate all the bacterias in the guts (even if we repopulate them maybe that's not enough). I mean we dont have a long time experience with WOO so caution is necessary that's why I'm wondering if I can start it or not...

But I must admit your results are fantastic !
By the way, where is the OP? I hope he's still in a good health now.

Thanks to share that much with all the community, you all have a great mindset.

Jean

Post Edited (jeanloup) : 4/21/2014 9:06:01 AM (GMT-6)

Thank you Bad Gut for your help.

So I'm planing to take 8 drops a day (2x4 morning/evening) for one week, and when the flare stops (fingers crossed) I'll stop the WOO, no need to continue it.
Let's hope it stops the flare for a long time after stopping it.

In fact it has the same purpose as pred, you take it when on flare, and stop it (progressively) when it's ok.

Post Edited (jeanloup) : 4/21/2014 12:25:16 PM (GMT-6)

Bad Gut said...
You definately don't want to take it forever. Many people were getting blood tests every week or every other week while taking WOO, it does have the potential to cause issues taking it for long periods or high dosages. I think taking short runs with it - 2 weeks or less shouldn't be a huge concern unless your blood work is already a big mess. The two times I have taken it to clear a flare I took less than a week both times. I'm considering taking it two to three days in a row each month instead of waiting for symptoms to appear, hoping that will keep things at bay while in remission.

If you have serious concerns I would check with your doctor and ask for blood tests to verify you aren't having any negative reactions to it, but I have a feeling your body will tell you that before the tests results come back.

I think this is really good advice. I'm going to follow this protocol. But, I feel it is important to take probiotics during and after WOO also

Hi,

I read some articles on Oregano oil, and want to add a precision which is important, because it concerns the variety of Oregano to choose.
As a matter of facts there are several varieties and the latin name should be considered (Origanum compactum, l’Origanum majorana,Origanum vulgare, etc).
the one that interests us here is the vulgare.

So take this into account when ordering for your oil.

Cheers

Hey that's awesome Markb!

Sorry I haven't posted on here in while. Just to clear up a few things:

1) My GI did my bloodwork weekly for a few months, but now we are just monthly. The only reason was because I was on Imuran and there was uncertainty on how things might go with the two together and liver counts etc . There seems to be no issue with myself.

2) My GI was quite surprised on how well I am doing. I was going to try dropping the Imuran, but have not so far. He left it up to me, but would rather I stay on Imuran as well. He decided to keep the monthly blood work going even if I stop Imuran just out of curiosity mainly.

3) I have been consistent - so about 8 drops 3x daily for going on say 6 months and so far have not had any issue.

4) I take a solid tablespoon of Bob's Redmill Potato starch each morning and sometimes at night as well. During the day I don't take any probiotics, but at night before going to sleep I take L. rheuteri (biogia brand) so about 8 drops in water. I was taking Renew Life 100 Billion, but switched to 80 Billion to try out just cause of the slight difference in bacteria. I do very well on both of these and am consistent. I also take my probiotics with a glass of Kefir Milk (store bought) and usually Greek (Balkan Style yogurt) when I remember.

So the combo of Imuran, WOO/Thyme and Probiotics has me doing quite well.

Not every day is awesome, but bad days mean an extra trip or so to the washroom, or maybe a single episode of "D" then normal stool again. I should also point out that I very rarely have "D" anymore. Like maybe once or twice a month and it just lasts for one trip to the bathroom.

What's interesting is for the first time in 12 years I'm just now (over the past 3 weeks) starting to see the first one a day kinda days, which is pretty cool. Just the other day I awoke, had a poo and and then took off for the entire day and evening and never pooped or had the urge till the next morning. Crazy. But days like that seem to be about once per week at the moment. Most of the time I am twice per day.

I still tend to eat very healthy. SCD like, but with oatmeal now everyday and the occasional restaurant hamburg haha...

I'd say maybe for those trying this and not seeing success, maybe stick with it for a month or so before calling it quits.

Oh - and I have Crohn's-Colitis so maybe for me I need both Iumarn and this to stay in remission. Who knows. The only reason I have not tried dropping the Imuran yet is that my sisters wedding is in the first part of July and I'd love to feel normal for it.

Also I do have the odd day where things don't feel quite right yet, but they are few and far between. As mentioned I'd say I'm 95-99% symptom free all the time and 100% symptom free the odd day.

Post Edited (Canada Mark) : 5/5/2014 10:42:12 AM (GMT-6)

Hi!

sorry for bad english. :)

short version: WOO helped me completely, almost immediately. :)

long version:

I was diagnosed with UC (but Chrons runs in the familiy so I'm fairly suspicious I have Chrons) 2 years ago.

Our health system is really bureaucratic and slow. I had to lie in bed for a month being totally worthless and going to WC 10 times per day before they game me Salofalk that helped me almost immediately.

So here I am, being happy, taking Salofalk, having no issues.

After a year or so my disease comes back. Now I had to wait even more before somebody would give me any medicine. You cant buy most medicine. you wait for prescription and then you get it for free. local doctor can prescribe you Salofalk. For anything else you need a specialist. Waiting time for specialist is about a month, then you have to wait a few month for colonoscopy so doctors confirm there really is a problem. After that you get medicine. It was ****ed.
I lost 9kg in one month (63kg 180cm, october 2013).
I was really worthless. I basically couldn't do anything. If I washed the dishes that was doing a lot.

I never tried any other alternative therapy (ok I was suspicious of some foods, but when you eat almost nothing at all it's kinda hard to believe you should cut down on milk).

So I read forums. It wasn't a thorough read. It was more like trying to at least read the half of the post, then taking a nap, then trying to read other half of the post.

This disease is really random. Me being a mathematician and understanding random patterns and also understanding people don't understand random patterns, it seemed all of the diets and other stuff seemed like a bunch of bullcrap.

Most of the posts go "I tried (not) drinking/eating [X] and after [Y > 1 month] I noticed some improvements."

WOO was the only thing where it seemed there might be a chance it might work. Also I was desperate. :)

So I bought it, got it in the morning. At that time it took my digestive system about 6 hours to process food.
I really don't remember how many drops I started with. I think it was about 4.
something funny happened at 10pm on the same day. I read a whole article on nytimes without pauses. At that time this was a lot!
I was on 10 drops per day in few days time(5 in the morning, 5 before going to sleep). I laughed every day for a whole month since that day. Every day I felt improvements.

After less then 2 weeks my bleeding completely stopped and my stools became normal. After few months I stopped with WOO. Still feeling healthy.

I don't know if it was WOO or just a random coincidence.

When I became operational I decided it would be a shame not saying on this forum WOO helped me, and after half a year I remembered. :)

Probably because I have a routine check up tomorrow.

If it weren't for Canada Mark i wouldn't try it, so thank you. :)

At first I took some reuteri(and a few other good bacteria) but soon stopped.

Canada Mark said...
Any updates here from anyone?

And has anyone ever heard from protocolteck?... the one that came up with this..


I had my 6 month GI appointment a few days ago and he was visibly shocked when he came in the room and looked at me. In fact he walked in and said wow... I assume you're doing pretty good! I seem to range between 95 and 100% remission now all the time with solid stool pretty much always, no blood, no mucus. My weight has maintained itself and slowly crept up and stabilized and I can actually eat things like wheat crackers and bread now and then without any ill feeling whatsoever. But I'm chicken to venture to far down that path - though I do test it from time to time. All foods are fine with me know and cause no issue.

This is the first time in 12 years I've had this response. And no IBS like symptoms anymore. Even on Remicade I went into clinical remission as soon as I went strict SCD along with it - but I still has major IBS & D type problems.

Still following the same thing I have been for the last six months. Blood work all came back perfect and over the last 6 months it didn't have any negative effects with Imuran. My GI kept my blood work weekly for a long time when I first started this just to be sure so this was very cool of him. He had his concerns over a few things between the WOO and Imuran. So did I.

Now comes the decision do I want to drop the WOO and Thyme oils or drop the Imuran. I still haven't decided which. Been procrastinating. My GI wants me to stay on Imuran and see what happens when I taper off the WOO/Thyme but he said again, ultimately it's my decision and he'll support me either way but his preference is for me to remain on Imuran. He's been quite good at following things with me on this so I think I might do what he wants. I can always return if things go bad again. Part of me very much wants to drop the Imuran though... just to see...

Anyway - was curious how anybody else was... specially anyone with Crohn's-Colitis in which this seems to have the biggest effect.

EDIT: @crofters - I'm sorry I missed your post from long ago. I'm not sure how long. I'm on 6 months and trying to decide what I want to do.

Mark, it was me that started this Oregano Oil treatment. I just thought a little credit would be nice.
protocolteck replied in my original post from 6/7/2013 "oregano oil huge change"
As you know he followed up with this long lasting string. I am very glad this has helped people and that all of you continue to spread the word.
TY Dennis Desjardins