Why eating fruit cures my IBS...

Interesting story but here's my problem: I love fruit but it causes IBS (not IBD) symptoms in my gut. I can only eat a small amount of some fruit or the next morning (takes that long) it's "everybody OUT of the colon." Not worth the enjoyment of the previous day's fruit intake.

Blueberries were my recent splurge and wow the payback. It may be the fiber, dunno.

Yes I do believe, like the link's author thinks, that lack of certain good bacteria may be responsible for my IBS reactions. I'm working on that. I've got a new probiotic coming in the mail and will report results. I currently take reuterii "Pearl" probiotic and in the past have taken VSL#3 (quit when UC symptoms were past).

If I can fix this last bothersome symptom, and eat fruit again, I will almost be back to normal. Except I'll be gluten-free probably forever.

Maybe it's the fructose, not the fiber, in fruit that does me in. My gut didn't go to med school so is no help in solving this. I keep trying.

Chris, I'm confused. Are you writing about IBD (UC or Crohn's) or IBS?
They're not the same thing, and what helps one may harm the other.

When I first came down with IBD and researched diet I was totally amazed at how much conflicting information there was on it. It's no wonder most doctors don't want to go down that road. Since Guardian brought up citrus fruits, that is one of the ones I discovered with conflicting information. Some places said citrus fruits and juices were good for you, some said avoid them. Same thing with meats and several other different things. I know most meats that aren't highly processed are good for me while citrus fruits and juices do me in. This is probably all due to histamines in my case since highly processed meats and orange juice are responsible for high histamines. I used to love orange juice at breakfast but after coming down with UC I realized after several episodes of crapping my pants with diarrhea shortly after drinking a large amount of orange juice that I should avoid it like the plague. Same thing happened to me with tomato based products. I bet he was talking about IBS but my doctor also diagnosed me with IBS (I'm not sold on that one) and fruits are not good for me, except in very low quantities or if I take DAO.

bananagirl said...
It's amazing how different this disease affects people.
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Not amazing at all when all people want to think is on a level 3.

I, on the other hand, think on a level 6 ;p

Allow me to explain:

People are all obsessed with finding what works for them to help their IBD (that is level 3, which is not bad...but still level 3), however the medical industry should focus their efforts on level 6 instead.

What is level 6. Ahhhhh yes....now we get to the wisdom part. What all humans have in common. We know all of us have a colon, we know all of us have this common gene and that common gene. As simple as this is, this is where you go to fix the root cause.

Now you can ask: Waht, are you saying, Somedude, you cray cray, yo.

Have you ever wondered why fruits heal one dude, then meds fix another dude, then another does absolutely nothing and the disease goes away(for whatever time frame) ? Why? Why does SCD works for some, not work for others, others do Raw food, others do crap f.. all and the disease goes away?

Simply put why someone has to go Raw food, crazy diet and another do absolutely nothing and have the same results?

Why? well, it's simple. It's because of a simple gene or mechanism in the body. A 1101roflicreateibdlol0011 gene. And that gene, alllllllllllllll everyone has it. Either it goes out of whack at some point in someone's life, be it at 1, 3 40, 50 years etc, or it doesn't. In some cases, the body can "re-align it" at least temporarily thus ending that cycle of IBD. Food (SCD) or other unique treatments can sometimes "re-align it" or "miss-align it further" but regardless it all steams from that gene.

Once you renew that gene or reset it, you will be at your healthy self how you once was.

Now, you may be curious what Level 1 is. Well, level 1 is what Soystud in on. I never understand what he says, all he talks is in riddles and allusions. ;)

If you think about all of it, you will realize everything I said makes sense. You have to delve deep at the one true common ground.

Guardian7 said...
Just a rumor but I hear soystud's level is over 9000.

lololol.

didn't work for bananagirl's 35 bananas a day diet.

q

from my own experience, i'd say fruits are a killer for ibd, i personally tolerate only bananas and i eat 6 bananas a day (but still can't put on weight)

garylouisville said...
The trouble with this article is that it is about ONE person. You can find a thousand ONE person's story about what they did to cure their IBD and most of them would be different and since everyone is different you really can't put much weight into what One person did.


One person cured their IBD by:

Going Vegan

Going Paleo

Going on SCD

Getting Accupuncture

Going to the Chiropractor

Drinking their own Urine

Doing a fecal transplant

Eating a high fiber diet

Eating a low fiber diet

Doing meditation

Eating spinach and sunflower seeds


Well, you get the picture. And, by the way, overindulgence in fruit makes most UC'rs worse.

It made me worse at first too.

But the more simplified I made it, the more things got better. Ie, I took all animal proteins out of the diet, I lost the nut intake, I wiped out all green smoothies. I took away all those 10 banana/watermelon smoothies. I just focused on whole fruit. Then things got better.

I have had heaps of problems with fruit. But only when other food was part of my diet as well.

Just my experience. Thankfully, I got the results I felt I could get. There were glimpses that my body was responding.

And, yes, there are many stories on how people cure their illness. This is just one that worked for me. It has also worked for my children, my sister and her child. I still feel the fecal transplant pill is the missing link for us. Combine that with our diet and the results have been startling.

I'd say try it for 30 days. But that would be like me saying "Try handstands for thirty days to slow digestion". It's only my POV.

Post Edited (CoastalChris) : 6/7/2014 2:45:48 PM (GMT-6)

honestly chris, stick with it if you feel good. it took me years to find how my UC works and what i need to be healthy. i seriously wish i could be a healthy vegan but it's not what my body likes. i loved eating my huge green salads and fruit smoothies but then all the bleeding started and i knew something wasn't sure.

Guardian7 said...
I think IBD was a typo, though he'll have to confirm it himself. He said he had terrible IBS, which can be just as bad is IBD. :)

I agree that a vast majority of our issues can be traced to a malfunctioning microbiome. It isn't so simple that the issue will be fixed just by adding in the bacteria, however.

The conditions (ph level, parasitic organisms present/absent, etc) all determine whether our bacteria will assimilate (efficiently) certain foods or not. Although I don't think vitamin k is as important as k2, our bacteria absolutely need to produce this essential vitamin for proper health.

This is also perhaps why UC patient A can tolerate fruit x, but not the fruit y that patient B can tolerate

For me, eating citrus (and some tropical fruits) have a positive effect on my gut. What he says about fruits has some validity.

Hey, I agree, Guardian.

Also the Vitamin K was meant to read K2. A supplement I used to take. Not anymore though.

I also has no parasites in my gut. But my pH was alkaline at a reading of 7.6 (I used to consume four lemons a days because it seemed to relieve my mucous issues). I don't anymore because the amount of fruit I eat seems to take care of that.

My apologies to all if this post frustrated you. I guess it looks like someone decrying 'your way' of doing things to promote 'my way' of doing things.

It's evangelical, I know.

But the intention was honourable. Please take my 'advice' with a grain of salt. Fruit works for me. But your mileage may vary!

Chris -

Your input has been very valuable and I encourage you to keep posting here. Please don't take anything the wrong way. It's disheartening to hear what happened to your family. I would want to do anything possible to avoid a fate like that.

I eschewed fruits for the longest time because of fructose. Apparently, Dr.Robert Lustig's popular lecture on youtube got to everyone (see the amount of views).

What I learned was that many of the studies he referred to in the lecture apply to mice and not humans. Mice inefficiency convert fructose into glycogen, storing the rest as fat. Humans, through the evolution process, have adapted and tend to have far better conversion ratios.

The reason that fructose/sucrose is implicated in obesity is that people eat these in excess, and on top of an already inflammatory diet. Chris Kresser did a nice piece on his site and made me rethink fruits. If ones diet consistent solely of fruits, it is well within our evolutionary parameters and possible to do it.

Would I recommend it? Absolutely not, but certain would probably do well by eliminating grains like gluten and replacing those with veggies and fruits.

I've added a few fruits into my diet without any issues. I love oranges and I believe it's helping me, perhaps by reducing the Ph level in my colon, and having certain bacteria thrive. There's no doubt that all my past antiacid use contributed to some of these bacterial problems, and no thanks to doctors.

Personally, I do terrible without fats and will get depressed if I don't eat things like butter and cocoa butter. But I've learned about the magnificence of fruits as well!