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Posted 7/4/2014 1:31 AM (GMT 0)
www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/01/colostomy-bag-model-picture_n_5548863.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

:-)
Posted 7/4/2014 2:16 AM (GMT 0)
Very inspirational!
Posted 7/4/2014 2:29 AM (GMT 0)
Think I'm gonna stay away from HW for a few days until this story has run its course.

I'll be inspired when the media showcases a frumpy, middle-aged, slightly overweight woman or man rocking an ostomy bag on the beach. Until then... yawnsville. It's the same old same old: this is far more about somebody young and beautiful getting all the attention as per usual than it is about having an ostomy or even about the grim everyday reality of having IBD. Couldn't be less inspired if I tried.
Posted 7/4/2014 3:52 AM (GMT 0)
It was inspiring for me!! :)
Posted 7/4/2014 4:09 AM (GMT 0)
I was just coming here to post about this myself!! I thought this was very inspiring! :-)
Posted 7/4/2014 2:01 PM (GMT 0)
Isn't this the same girl BeatUC posted about? Or is this another one now? Is this becoming a new trend??
Posted 7/4/2014 2:18 PM (GMT 0)
Yay lets all go to the beach and pose half naked!!!
Lol kidding!
And yes it is the same story that beatuc posted...
Posted 7/4/2014 2:47 PM (GMT 0)
I would look awful in a pic like that, and I don't even have a stoma. Good for her! The more people experience things, the less foreign and scary they are.

NCOT, we get that you're depressed and we're sorry. Not necessary to rain on every parade that goes by in order to convince us.
Posted 7/4/2014 3:30 PM (GMT 0)
She's pretty cool but I get what NCOT is saying, if she were an older, larger man/woman, it wouldn't be so acceptable to show off her appliances. She's gorgeous with or without a bag, and her figure is amazing. It's a lot easier to give acceptance to an attractive, young woman with a bag. I am sure it hasn't been easy for her, and yes, she's very brave for being confident and I give her a ton of respect for that but if she weren't pretty and skinny, I don't think people would be looking at this picture. Would it be inspirational to see a confident person, probably, but would anyone care, probably not.
Posted 7/4/2014 5:48 PM (GMT 0)

notsosicklygirl said...
She's pretty cool but I get what NCOT is saying, if she were an older, larger man/woman, it wouldn't be so acceptable to show off her appliances. She's gorgeous with or without a bag, and her figure is amazing. It's a lot easier to give acceptance to an attractive, young woman with a bag. I am sure it hasn't been easy for her, and yes, she's very brave for being confident and I give her a ton of respect for that but if she weren't pretty and skinny, I don't think people would be looking at this picture. Would it be inspirational to see a confident person, probably, but would anyone care, probably not.

If we are being honest though, does anyone want to look at an older,"unfit" person; regardless of their bag status? Its not about being politically correct, its a matter of evolution and natural selection. I know the socially acceptable trend now a days is to view "unfit" people as beautiful and attractive, but 1) we are designed for that and 2) its not exactly in the best interest of society.

/random tangent
Posted 7/4/2014 5:57 PM (GMT 0)
Exactly marauder....I wanted to post that but thought it was obvious. Guess not....ncot just basically likes to complain about life being unfair....yes, hot people get more attention then ugly people, this isn't exactly new. And a bag by itself doesn't necessarily make an attractive person unattractive (the point of this article), but it's also not doing any favors to an already unattractive person (who wouldn't have gotten the attention with or without a bag - what ncot seems to be so pissed about).

Post Edited (UCHater) : 7/4/2014 12:05:20 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/4/2014 6:06 PM (GMT 0)
I totally understand what you mean and you're correct, but in reality, I am sick of seeing all these young, underweight people on TV and in the media. They all look the same, it has gotten pretty boring. I also feel like everyone's obsession with this look is what gives less attractive people less opportunity overall throughout life. I think way too much rests on people's image and looks when other things are so much more important. Looking attractive doesn't mean you have anything interesting to say, nor does it mean you should have better potential to do something impactful, get noticed or get a job, but unfortunately it does. We need to stop seeing it as such an important trait. It's simply genetics. I would much rather idolize someone who has done something great for science, is passionate about doing something positive for the world or excels at their career than someone who is "pretty". Just my opinion.
Posted 7/4/2014 6:31 PM (GMT 0)
You're right sickly....but that's how society is and it's just not going to change, even though like marauder said....trying to change it is the new fad.

Yes, attractive people will have usually more opportunities in most aspects if life than unattractive people. They'll generally get more positive attention. However, this is a philosophical debate, and entirely not the point if this article. Just something brought up by ncot because she's unhappy with her own life. None of us are happy with ibd, but we all do things to deal with it...ncot just needs to find some way of dealing with her situation, some thing that makes her happy. I doubt complaining about every positive experience other people have is it.

Yes, I'm pissed I have ibd, I'm pissed I have to take all these meds and none of them work, I'm pissed this disease is limiting my career in a lot of ways, I'm pissed I will likely need surgery soon, I'm pissed I can barely leave the house, I'm pissed I don't look like tom cruise, but I'm trying to deal with it...and yet I'm still happy for this girl.
Posted 7/4/2014 6:35 PM (GMT 0)
I don't see it as inspiring or not inspiring. It's a story about someone who has accepted having an ostomy and wants to continue her career as a model.

She will be a model, but there's no way as a model for swimsuits, she'll be showing her ostomy. It's up to those who hire her, unless it's for CD or UC fundraising.

In these pics she's modeling her ostomy....

Why would we choose to idolise anyone? That, in itself, is THE problem.

q
Posted 7/4/2014 6:45 PM (GMT 0)
You know what's yawnsville? When people bring down others who try to give them inspiration.

If you don't like what I (or anyone) post, don't comment. Simple, easy, effective. I don't care if she was 300 lbs. She accepted her cards in life, how is that negative?! Don't like? Fine, get off the post and let us who are happy for her talk about it.
Posted 7/4/2014 6:51 PM (GMT 0)
Sibby....it's not personal. It's perspectives, and no way about you.

That's the problem with some not liking what we like.
There are lots who supported the story....that's a good nod.

q
Posted 7/4/2014 8:30 PM (GMT 0)
Although she's pretty, she does fit into thee category of people I would consider a good person to "idolize" because she's doing something positive by raising awareness. She's a good role model and not just a pretty face so that's definitely inspirational. I wasn't trying to say anyone shouldn't see whoever however they want. I was just stating that the expectations put on people's looks these days are a little ridiculous. If you're not completely flawless, you're a butter face or whatever. it's silly and unachievable. I wasn't speaking about the article in specific and I guess what I said really doesn't belong here because it was off-topic :) Sorry.
Posted 7/4/2014 10:33 PM (GMT 0)
No, I wasn't taking it personally. I don't believe in idolizing people. I just wanted people to see that there is acceptance and a life after diagnosis, and all the crap we deal with.

I just don't want people automatically think, 'Well she's skinny, a model, etc. What's your point?' My point was for people to see we can live with this disease. It's a pain. It's scary. It's dangerous. But darn, look at where she is.

I just don't see why people have to be so negative/depressive about this. (And no, I'm not making fun of depression. I've had it. Suffered through it for over a year, and had to be on some powerful meds. And I also understand what you're saying) But darn, let people post this to inspire others. If not, just don't comment. Completely messes up the meaning behind this message.

Post Edited (Sibby) : 7/4/2014 4:52:08 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/5/2014 1:33 PM (GMT 0)
Sibby, I've been depressed too, but I somehow never found it appealing to make everyone around me as depressed as I was. I guess for some people it's true that misery loves company.

I found this a great positive read. I don't look like a model, never did, and at my current age no one in their right mind would want to see me in a bikini any way. I also don't have an ostomy. But to me, anyone who does something that normalizes IBD and informs people that it's not freakish is inspirational.

Thanks for posting this.
Posted 7/5/2014 2:57 PM (GMT 0)

Judy2 said...
NCOT, we get that you're depressed and we're sorry. Not necessary to rain on every parade that goes by in order to convince us.

That's right, dismiss an opinion because of "depression". Even though I actually have an ostomy and thus have more personal experience than almost anyone else on this board.
Posted 7/5/2014 3:00 PM (GMT 0)
And to everyone else: I don't care what you think of me.

I'm making a serious point. I'm sorry if it brings you "down", but that isn't my problem. I'm here on these forums to express my opinions; not to placate you and make you feel warm and fuzzy about the world.
Posted 7/5/2014 3:28 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not inspired by this at all. I'd be inspired when they find a cure. Then I'd be really inspired.

NiceCupOfTea said...

I'll be inspired when the media showcases a frumpy, middle-aged, slightly overweight woman or man rocking an ostomy bag on the beach. Until then... yawnsville. It's the same old same old: this is far more about somebody young and beautiful getting all the attention as per usual than it is about having an ostomy or even about the grim everyday reality of having IBD. Couldn't be less inspired if I tried.

dayam, son, you just nailed this. It's about right.

If I showed up on the beach with that on, they be calling the police whaaaat? Indecent exposure. lol They will fine me.

If that chick shows up like that, people look through the corner of their eyes and not really say anything.
Posted 7/5/2014 3:49 PM (GMT 0)
Lolzers, I've just come from replying to a post of yours on the Ostomy board, dude >_>.

I'm not inspired by this at all. I'd be inspired when they find a cure. Then I'd be really inspired.

Hell yeah. Would give this sentence a thousand "likes" if I could. A cure is the only thing I'm interested in. Couldn't give a rat's arse for any of the new drugs coming out.

If I showed up on the beach with that on, they be calling the police whaaaat? Indecent exposure. lol They will fine me.

If that chick shows up like that, people look through the corner of their eyes and not really say anything.

Interesting point. The woman was English, but she exposed her bag on a beach in Mexico. I dunno what would happen if I tried to do the same thing on an English beach, and don't fancy trying it. I dunno what this woman is meant to be "inspiring" people to do, but it's certainly not inspiring me to go out in a bikini on the beach. I'm between BMI 25 and 26, so hardly morbidly obese, but probably still biologically and evolutionarily "unfit", according to the likes of Marauder and UCHater. (Even though there is nothing about being underweight which is healthy. Anorexic women notoriously lose their periods, because "biology" has deemed them unfit to bear children whilst they are underweight.)

Post Edited (NiceCupOfTea) : 7/5/2014 9:52:48 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/5/2014 5:10 PM (GMT 0)
I really think everyone is over-analyzing this- if you're comfy in a bikini, wear one. If not, don't. Regardless of whether or not you have a bit of fabric attached to your abdomen. However, it is sort of nice to see an ostomy not being demonized, just showing it for what it is- not a big deal. If you do some googling, there's quite a few ostomy sites that show lots of people, fit & unfit, wearing bikinis, half-shirts, etc. I don't necessarily see the inspiration, but I can see where it may alleviate someone's fears of being disfigured.
Posted 7/6/2014 2:37 AM (GMT 0)
I'm inspired that she can sit out there on the beach like that at all, if it was me I'd be wearing dirty diapers or I'd be in the bathroom.

Post Edited (UCHater) : 7/5/2014 8:48:32 PM (GMT-6)

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