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Posted 1/25/2015 12:29 PM (GMT 0)
I've read in some posts they put the QD into capsules, some mix it with water and some put it on their tongue and drink water.

Ideally, I'd like to just buy empty capsules but theres so many different sizes that I don't know which one is right for how you're meant to take it
Posted 1/25/2015 1:02 PM (GMT 0)
Isn't that basically the same thing as CCHerbal? You can buy that already in capsules.
Posted 1/25/2015 1:11 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not too sure but I ordered a large amount off ebay for £15. The stuff I found else where is much more expensive and less is given.
Posted 1/25/2015 8:00 PM (GMT 0)
Half a teaspoon in a little hot water, mix then add some cold and drink it down. Nice and easy!
Posted 1/25/2015 9:54 PM (GMT 0)

Kevin Watson said...
Half a teaspoon in a little hot water, mix then add some cold and drink it down. Nice and easy!

Excellent. Would you say about 2 fingers of hot water is good enough then fill up the rest of a 300ml glass with cold water? Sorry, I just wanna make sure I get it down right
Posted 1/28/2015 3:54 PM (GMT 0)
So my Qing Dai came like an hour ago and I've just taken it using Kevin's method. Didn't taste too bad tbh..just hoping I've done it right.

I'll report every day/whenever there's a change on this thread for anyone interested in taking this route.
Posted 1/28/2015 5:04 PM (GMT 0)
Please keep us updated on this I'm very interested. I have had QD on my shelve for about 4 months and haven't got around to trying it yet, I'm in remission currently taking LDN and WOO, so I haven't had a need to try it, but I'm sure at some point the LDN and WOO will fail and at that point I will then try QD. Like you though I have been gun shy on how the best way to digest the stuff, I thought up to this point it would have to be disgusting so it makes me feel better that some take it straight and say it isn't too bad.

Not sure if you mentioned it in another post but could you please let us know where you are flare wise?
Posted 1/28/2015 5:30 PM (GMT 0)
Sure no problem:

State of health:
- bowel movements on a good day = 3
- bowel movements on a bad day = 5
- past couple days there's been blood in majority of my stool, before that it appeared 1 or 2 times out of 4
- major gas and bloating at nights
- sleep has become an issue; waking up 1 - 3 times during the night to go toilet
- stool is barely solid
- bit of liquid/diarrhea in every bowel movement

Medication:
- Pentasa (2g morning and night)
- Pentasa suppository (1g in the afternoon)
- Allopurinol (100g in the morning)
- Azathioprine (25g in the afternoon)

Supplements:
- Probiotics (http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/forever-young-probio-7-advanced-formula-capsules/-60083840)
- vitamin D & calcium chewables
Posted 1/29/2015 5:31 AM (GMT 0)
I choose no calorie Psyllium Seed and Qing Dai resulting in perfect floating stools as long as I keep consuming it before meals.

I tell co-workers one tastes like dead fish, the other tastes like dirt. With no handy blender at the office I stir twice in paper cup and down the hatch toss the cup.

On to the next problem no time for fussing get the stuff in you. At home in the morning I add VSL3DS and standing stick blender blasts it but must be consumed immediately before the P-seed powder jells.
Posted 1/29/2015 5:52 PM (GMT 0)

aguywithuc said...
I choose no calorie Psyllium Seed and Qing Dai resulting in perfect floating stools as long as I keep consuming it before meals.

I tell co-workers one tastes like dead fish, the other tastes like dirt. With no handy blender at the office I stir twice in paper cup and down the hatch toss the cup.

On to the next problem no time for fussing get the stuff in you. At home in the morning I add VSL3DS and standing stick blender blasts it but must be consumed immediately before the P-seed powder jells.

I was about to say that after taking it a second time today, it doesn't really mix by stirring so I'm just gonna buy some empty capsules and stick em in there. i've seen so many people take P-seed, is it really that effective? I can't afford to buy VSL3DS in London, it costs about £75 ($110) to import them and only 20 sachets. I think the probiotics that I posted in this thread have the bacteria that's needed for UCers (according to another thread I read). But I'll defo start taking my QD before meals..I didn't really know when to take it, so thanks for that :D
Posted 1/29/2015 8:26 PM (GMT 0)

Ysfm said...

I was about to say that after taking it a second time today, it doesn't really mix by stirring so I'm just gonna buy some empty capsules and stick em in there. i've seen so many people take P-seed, is it really that effective? I can't afford to buy VSL3DS in London, it costs about £75 ($110) to import them and only 20 sachets. I think the probiotics that I posted in this thread have the bacteria that's needed for UCers (according to another thread I read). But I'll defo start taking my QD before meals..I didn't really know when to take it, so thanks for that :D

Nothing is more effective than Psyllium Seed Powder for me, except P-seed with Qing Dai, I also include apple pectin, VSL3DS and am bromelain to suppress the inflammation.

I have stuffed P-seed powder into jumbo capsules, frankly all that waste of time is erased if I just wolf it down, mixes ok with blender stick but requires cleanup. Goal here is anyway you can get it down

3 times per day
1 heaping P-seed scoup
2 Qing Dai ( Meridian Pro )

Then focus on eliminated foods that cause inflammation
Then take Bromelain to inhibit inflammation

The other 2,000 bottles in my walk-in closet don't come anywhere near the effectiveness of the above.
Posted 2/1/2015 6:43 PM (GMT 0)
My first update

First day:
- 5 bowel movements
- Solid stool returned (only 2nd and 3rd bm)
- Nothing else has changed

Second day:
- 3 bowel movements
- No change (same state before taking QD)

Third day:
- 7 bowel movements today
- Able to pass wind without following through with liquid stool
- No other changes

Fourth day:
- 8 bowel movements
- First 4 solid
- No other changes

Fifth day:
- 5 bowel movements
- No changes

So..only thing the QD has helped with so far is my bloating issues, since taking it, I only had 1 day of bad bloating and I think that was due to a dietary issue (pork ribs - not a good idea) and returning some solid stool.

I've had difficulties taking QD (finding the best method) but today I just put half a teaspoon on my tongue and downed it with water..definitely the best way. Also, I've had blood in my stool for the entire week, which could be because of the suppository. So I'm seeing how it goes this week without it. Also, I had a flu jab on Thursday and I'm taking multivitamins as I'm afraid that I'm not getting enough nutrients due to the liquid stool.

I'm taking these but I'm pretty sure it doesn't make much difference

(http://www.lifestyle-labs.com/products/nutri-advanced-multi-essentials-mens-30-tablets?gclid=Cj0KEQiAuremBRCbtr-1qJnKi-4BEiQAh0x08Km3neFMicy_L8_RnKxwAet34M5Wdx26Hfdspd0XYj4aAoJd8P8HAQ#fo_c=608&fo_k=322850a73b4bd4827ecc75f5854d2c5a&fo_s=gplauk)

Post Edited (Ysfm) : 2/1/2015 11:46:07 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 2/2/2015 3:43 AM (GMT 0)

Ysfm said...
So..only thing the QD has helped with so far is my bloating issues

Then your not doing it right.

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3297132

I just doubled down on 3 more bottles of Miridian Pro Qing Dai. Direct from China brand still on its way but M-Pro is as effective if I just take more scoops like it says to.

Before starting a big meal 2-3 scoops M-pro + PSeed Powder + VSL#3DS ( first time of day only ).

Perfect results which float and are green/blue. Whatever it takes to just get it into water and get it down, I actually taste it LESS the less dissolved it is - let my stomach mix it because I never taste anything with my stomach.

Maybe it is your brand that is the problem, maybe you should be combining with PSeed.
Posted 2/2/2015 9:24 AM (GMT 0)
I think my problem was how I've been taking it. Putting it on the tongue and downing it with water is the best way. You don't even taste it.

I don't think I'll buy PS powder just yet, I'll see how things go for 2 weeks on what I have. I only started my probiotics last week and they say it takes a month for the bacteria to really spread. So that along with QD should make me feel better around mid Feb hopefully.
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