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Posted 4/22/2017 5:24 PM (GMT 0)
Hi all, I am having a bit of an issue with oral thrush at the moment......I have decided to blend up a few cloves of garlic and add them to my spinach smoothie as they are known to be a great defense against Candida albicans.

However, I am also taking some kind of expensive probiotics , too. This is counter intuitive isn't it? garlic will most likely kill good bacteria along with the bad bugs? any thoughts? thanks ! smile
Posted 4/22/2017 5:36 PM (GMT 0)
Why do you have oral thrush....are you on pred or inhaled steroids?


q
Posted 4/22/2017 6:12 PM (GMT 0)
Hi quincy, no I'm not taking those. Just mesalamine (both ends). And I have absolutely no idea why I have oral thrush. It's a mild case, but it's the 3rd time I've had it in about 6 months.

I have used tea tree oil and oil of oregano those times and eradicated it successfully, but this time I was concerned about taking the probiotics along side something more harsh.....

I am actually wondering if candida (sans UTI because I have never had one of those in my life) may be a part of my UC problem? if not THE problem?
Posted 4/22/2017 6:35 PM (GMT 0)
Doubtful...have you been checked for high blood sugar? Are you consuming high sugar and carbs?

How is your mouth hygeine?

As an aside, salicylates are also antifungal.

Have you had a nose swab done as well as a throat swab....and cultured? Not just saying it's thrush.

I would suggest more in depth regarding diagnosis and a course of an oral nystatin. Change toothbrushes often....even weekly until this is finished. Otherwise once a month.
Use a tongue scraper and floss often. Maybe even change your toothpase as it might be a contributor.

Do you have an intimate partner? If so, that person should also be checked since it can be ping-ponged from each other.

Since this is a continual....use meds that are meant to treat, and supplement with other anyifungals. You could consider using Caproil.

q
Posted 4/22/2017 6:39 PM (GMT 0)
how long have you been taking the expensive probiotics ? are they helping ? if not, maybe put them aside till the thrush has departed - any chance the thrush developed after you started taking the expensive probiotics ?
Posted 4/22/2017 6:52 PM (GMT 0)
Wow, thanks......I am actually 47 days sugar free and processed food free (with the exception of a piece of pie and sweet potatoes w/ candied pecans on Easter).

I am a stickler about oral hygiene and I change our toothbrushes monthly (but will now change more often) and also scrape my tongue regularly. I will switch over to tooth powder for awhile, as well.

No, I didn't get an official diagnosis----just noticed it seems my tongue was coated in a white film. I wonder if I am consuming a lot of antifungals then? I had no idea melamine was one . Does melamine also wipe out the good bacteria, too?

I have started using caprocylic acid daily, too (via organic coconut oil) do you think that this could be a die off sign maybe?

I have really, really altered my diet the last couple months as I am trying very hard to figure out what is causing my inflammation. Or at least trying to find ways to not create MORE inflammation anyway.....and in so doing am adding and subtracting a bunch of things.

Thanks so much. Should it return I will contact my doctor should it return and ask for dedicated drug like nystatin after a proper culture.
Posted 4/22/2017 6:56 PM (GMT 0)

soynomore said...
how long have you been taking the expensive probiotics ? are they helping ? if not, maybe put them aside till the thrush has departed - any chance the thrush developed after you started taking the expensive probiotics ?

Yes, as a matter of fact this DID happen after I began the probiotics. And I then got the impression that there must be a lot of candida in my system, so I began really doubling down my efforts in carb elimination and extra natural antifunglas. Hmmm......
Posted 4/22/2017 7:19 PM (GMT 0)
I struggled with thrush a lot previously. I found most probiotics were useless for this and some could make it worse. There is a strain that is known to stop candida overgrowth and is the only one that helped me.

Look up info on the strain bacillus coagulans.

It got rid of mine and I take one everyday now and haven't had any issues in over a year. I use a brand from the drugstore that's just $10 for a months supply.
Posted 4/22/2017 7:29 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you cupcakespinkgal, I will look into that one smile

I just received one called saccharomyces boulardii that is also supposed to be good for it (and I have stopped all the others). I had this issue with my last flare, too. It must be connected somehow..... but I am one of those "kitchen sink" people who do way too many things at once.
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