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The Misery of Fatigue... Is this the new normal? And how do you all cope?
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HorseyUK
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Posted 8/13/2017 6:43 PM (GMT 0)
Hi All
I was diagnosed in May this year with pancolitis so i'm really new to this. I started on 60mg prednisone. Tapered down and stopped end of june. Started bleeding, skin rashes and had puffy ankles and knees within days after stopping. Obviously the bleeding i was familiar with but the rest was new. Anyway, i could see my Gastro doc so my regular doc put me back on 30mg of sterioids which finished (after tapering) about
10 days ago.
Within 4-5 days of stopping i got diarrhea (well, lets say loose stool), then mucus and repeated need to go started again, and the last 3 days, some bleeding. Not a lot. Not dramatic like before. But its there.
The overwhelming symptom for me before (aside from the bleeding) was the fatigue. And now, although the rest is nowhere near as bad as before, i'm back to being utterly exhausted. Like i've taken sleeping tablets, but all the time. The day before yesterday i just slept all day. Yesterday i forced myself to do stuff, but 7pm i'd fallen asleep upright on the sofa, and as a result today i just feel too tired to even cook.
Is this the new 'normal'?
I dont think my symptoms are dramatic enough to be called a flare. Obviously with the steroids i felt great and was a ball of energy. Haven't felt that well for months as when i was on the steroids.. but now i've stopped this fatigue is unbearable. I'm going to lose my business if i can't manage a whole days work. How do you all cope?
I eat well and correctly. I have pleasure horses so am doing some physical activity every day, although not up to anything that i would call strenuous activity at the moment.
None of my blood tests, even when i was really really poorly, showed any other problems or deficencies - so is this just "normal"?
Sorry, i've rambled on a bit!
noodlesnoodles
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Posted 8/13/2017 7:13 PM (GMT 0)
Please tell me you are on some kind of maintenance medication?
HorseyUK
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Posted 8/13/2017 7:40 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, yes sorry i managed to miss that out (can i put it down to fatigue ;-) ). On 4g mesalamine granules for 3 more months. I assume its that keeping the bleeding relatively at bay!
noodlesnoodles
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Posted 8/13/2017 8:22 PM (GMT 0)
If you can't get off the pred successfully it means your maintenance meds aren't doing enough. You might try adding Rowasa to get control of the bleeding.
As far as fatigue, some people find it goes away once the disease is under control. Some don't
Poppie
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Posted 8/13/2017 11:59 PM (GMT 0)
I agree with noodles in that your maintenence meds arent enough..you need something else to support the mesalamine. This is important and could even be why you are experiencing such exhaustion as we all react differently.
I honestly believe that once you are on sufficient drugs the fatigue will go away.
MarjieKay
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Posted 8/14/2017 2:22 AM (GMT 0)
Could it be due in part to withdrawals from the steroids? a friend only used them for a 3 months stint and said she was really exhausted after quitting them for awhile.
Michelejc
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Posted 8/14/2017 11:04 AM (GMT 0)
I was very tired after I got off of Uceris for a couple of months after I stopped taking it. Give it a little more time.
TroubledTurds
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Posted 8/14/2017 12:50 PM (GMT 0)
ya, your body has lots of healing to do - give it some time - and tapering pred sucks the life right outa you -
noodlesnoodles
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Posted 8/14/2017 2:10 PM (GMT 0)
Oh, that's a good point the others have made. Tapering pred absolutely causes soul-sucking fatigue.
But still, you need to get on a better maintenance plan as well.
Try to think of this as temporary until you have reason to be believe it is not
iPoop
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Posted 8/14/2017 2:14 PM (GMT 0)
Fatigue can be caused by us flaring. Are you in a remission? If not then your flare could be a contributing factor to this fatigue. Prednisone can give us brain fog, once off of prednisone it is essential that our adrenal system wake up and begin producing natural cortisol as normal (prednisone is a synthetic cortisol). Cortisol is responsible for sleep and awake cycles, among other things.
We can have fatigue due to low blood-iron (that is anemia). You can get your blood tested and see if you are in a normal range for iron.
If you are still flaring, then get that under control and your energy levels should rebound. You might need higher doses of your current meds, and/or additional medications to achieve a remission.
quincy
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Posted 8/14/2017 4:57 PM (GMT 0)
Id say you're still flaring. You should have blood testing regardless since you have had other issues since off the pred.
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HorseyUK
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Posted 8/14/2017 7:39 PM (GMT 0)
Ok thank you all for taking the time to reply. I'd be delighted if this is just what happens for coming off the the pred. Bleeding less but urgency more today. Fatigue is still horrible. Managed about
4 hrs of work before conking out for 4hr 'nap'.
As a novice at this, i'm ashamed to say i really dont know how you are supposed to tell whats a flare and what's remission. Ok the end of the last flare was clear, it was bloody awful (pun intended)! But if some bleeding and mucus can be normal for some people, i havent got a clue how you draw the line.
While i was on the pred there was no bleeding and i felt fab, all the time, so again, clear remission. It's just this grey area of bleeding a bit that confuses me. Oh well, i guess i have plenty of time to figure it out. It isnt going away.
Will call the doc tomorrow and see what she thinks.
Thanks again all
iPoop
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Posted 8/14/2017 8:19 PM (GMT 0)
A remission is an absence of UC symptoms: no urgency, no blood, normal bm frequency (just a few a day), and just normal looking bms. If you have any UC symptoms then you are flaring. You know you are in a remission and there is no reason to ask "am I in a remission?".
Often our doctors confirm we are in a remission through something like a CRP blood test, FCP stool test, flexible-sigmoidoscopy, or colonoscopy. As we do best long term when we are in a deep/quiescent/histological remission.
TroubledTurds
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Posted 8/15/2017 12:32 AM (GMT 0)
if you are taking pred, remission is naught due to it's stature as a rescue/temporary med - with other meds considered maintenance, remission is allowed -
you can also be in a state of sorta remission - meaning you're not in a life altering flare, but still not completely symptom free - for instance, 4-5 poops per day would usually not be considered the big r - but if you have no other symptoms and can live with pooping that often, then there is your sorta remission - at least by my definition !
HorseyUK
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Posted 8/15/2017 5:09 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks both for the info. I can cope with the bleeding and urgency (i work from home so rarely far from the loo).
It's just the fatigue to shake, which sounds like it might just be coming off the pred, so i'll give it a few weeks.
I already have a check up appointment booked for 27th September. I'll hang on till then. Thanks for your time... it's genuinely appreciated. And i do feel reassurred.
I'm off in search of the coffee pot and some red bull!!
UC2016
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Posted 8/15/2017 4:18 PM (GMT 0)
I am also suffering from severe fatigue for most of my life with UC. Im wondering after reading this thread if it may be low cortisone. I've used prednisone often in the past and while I'm on it, I feel like superman. Then fatigue after tapering.
Currently on sulfasalazine and Entivio. UC under control.
Ihatepooping
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Posted 8/17/2017 2:23 AM (GMT 0)
I am right there with you my friend. I'm glad you posted this because this is he exact kind of thread I was looking for. I'm coming down off of Prednisone after being on it for a good 7-8 months. I have finally tapered down to 5 mg after being at 40 for most of that time and today I've slept for a good 2/3 of the day.
I'm sure the length of Prednisone use has something to do with how long it takes before your own cortisol levels even out... But does anyone have a ballpark on how long it takes or how to get more energy not by way of caffeine?
UC2016
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Posted 8/17/2017 2:51 AM (GMT 0)
After seeing doctor yesterday, he says it takes a year to normalize cortisone level after tapering off. Will.wait for blood test. He also says there is medication for energy, and said he's discuss after blood test comes back.
Could also be low iron.
Coca cola gives me lots of energy! But makes my UC flare. Can't tolerate coffee either.
There's probably lots of UC sufferers like myself that are finding it hard to keep a job because of the fatigue. If I find out what drug doc is suggesting I'll post it. Fatigue = lost wages. Must get this under control.
Woogy
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Posted 8/17/2017 4:44 PM (GMT 0)
I'm also suffering from extreme fatigue and I'm currently on 60 mgs of Prednisone. I should have a ton of energy but I have none!!! It makes it really hard to concentrate and function at work. Ugh.
I hope this lets up soon, I don't know how much more I can take.
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