Plant-based diet achieved 96% remission rate in UC at 1-year

I was big fan of PBD. I got an inspiration from this guy:

https://nutritionfacts.org/

So I put his recommendations in a test (as he says ) an applied his diet.

After months of experiments I can say:

- Whole grains are big NO for me (gas, bloating, general discomfort)
- Uncooked Fruits are big NO for me (gas, bloating, general discomfort)
- Lentils are big NO for me (gas, bloating, general discomfort)
- Legumes are big NO for me (gas, bloating, general discomfort)
+ Meat tolerated very well
+ Dairy tolerated well
+ Honey tolerated very well

I have been in remission (confirmed by colonoscopy) during experiments.

I believe Dr. Greger is little biased. If you convince yourself about something you start to see only evidence that support your conviction. You do not see contradictory evidence.

We should stay open-minded.

Disclaimer: still eat food from "big NO" category but in very small tolerable amount

quincy said...
Just commenting on comparisons that bloody well piss me off to no end....how are studies all or nothing and why do people believe them ? Who eats an all meat diet in general public? Why the title Proteinaholic? It's extremes that people are probably disputing more than good information with some sort of freaking balance.
Hence my comment to stick with my diet of protein at every meal....with other food as well.
q

It's called Proteinaholic because people in the U.S. are obsessed with protein, particularly animal protein, to the detriment of our health. No one said studies are "all or nothing" as you said. That book that you just made fun of actually has an entire chapter on how to determine what a "good" study is and how to make informed health decisions. You don't just look at one single study to be informed, you look at the entire body of knowledge. If you want to stay uninformed and if this thread "pisses you off," why don't you stop reading it? Just an idea. Also, you would know this if you read the book, but the author is a doctor who used to be a "proteinaholic" himself. He runs a big weight loss clinic in Houston and used to prescribe his obese patients to eat a protein (meat)-heavy diet, so it's not like he was always like this. He saw firsthand what animal protein was doing to himself and his patients and then dug into the research and completely changed his own diet and how he treats patients. I do not understand people who are so close-minded like you.

Rosiedays said...
I’ve been following this thread, and I think we are all on to something. I went to the UBC library to look up current peer reviewed research. I’m doing my masters at Ubc right now and have wide access to journal published articles world wide; a particularly interesting one I read was from Cambridge, 2019,
British Journal of Nutrition (2019), 122, 131–140 doi:10.1017/S0007114519000680 © The Authors 2019
“Gut Prevotella as a possible biomarker of diet and its eubiotic versus dysbiotic roles...”

And another study from the royal society of chemistry: “A holistic view of gallic acid-induced attenuation in colitis based on microbiome-metabolomics analysis” < this study shows a correlation between attenuation of UC and diet. But the mechanics of why GA makes a difference are unknown.

There are always limitations in research when it comes to diet partly because it’s so hard to tease apart all the variables, but it seems like more and more we are narrowing in on processed westernized diets and IBD.

I did come away from my readings convinced to increase my fresh vegetable consumption as a result of my reading, and I ordered a copy of the Canada food guide to post on my fridge. I was actually surprised to see so much complicated current information on gut bacteria and how it relates to the immune system. Ive noticed many people here in this forum have promoted avoiding processed foods which is consistent with the research, So as long as I can tolerate it, I’m going to make an effort to eat carrots, blueberries, strawberries, green and yellow bell peppers, apples, red cabbage, spinach, tomatoes, potatoes, squash and green peas every day, even if they sometimes need to be well cooked or in tablespoon portions.

Thanks for sharing! Sounds like a good goal to eat those foods daily! I'm working on cleaning up my diet again too. I used to eat a lot healthier.

I went to college (and lived with) with lots of vegetarian and vegans, and get and respect their philosophy. So, no bones with that. Know some who only eat meat from local farms that individuals know humanly treat their animals and feed and treat them well. There's ways to be more ethical about it all. My belief is humans evolved as omnivores and I believe eating that was today is beneficial for all of us. Being too strong on the meat-side or to strong on the vegetable side can't be helpful. As always, moderation is good a little bit of each. My dear wife has been trying to cut down on our meat in meals (with me kicking and screaming a little bit along the way) for health and carbon-footprint reasons (crazy liberals here). I do not see much harm in it. Pretty much doing meat-free meals on weekdays, and having meat again on weekends. I could stand to loose a few pounds, and she would like to too, so we'll see if it helps on that end as well.

The scientific study on IBD diets is just so very lacking. Lots of small-scale, open-label research which is so very prone to an exaggerated placebo effect. I know the CCFA is working on some scientific research to expand the knowledge of diets and how it effects us, and I eagerly look forward to reading the results. Really needs to be placebo controlled, large scaled, and peer-reviewed to be meaningful research. Certainly need to remain as pragmatic and non-biased about it all, as is possible. If one wants to cherry-pick studies and results to back one's own personal philosophy then that is not hard to do. Lots of things to try, and see if they help without guarantees.

Also, since you brought it up, that's clear that up the "humans are omnivores" excuse right now. We can't rip into animals with our teeth or fingernails and kill and eat them raw. Our digestive systems and teeth are those of an herbivore. Give a baby an apple and a rabbit and see which one they would eat. It isn't going to be the rabbit. Anyway, if anyone wants to actually read/learn more about the HEALTH implications of eating meat, pick up Proteinaholic or do some research from other reputable sources. Also, not eating animals for ethical or health reasons isn't a liberal vs. conservative issue. Go ahead and lock this thread now, iPoop, even though you're the one who brought up the ethics of killing animals because you like how they taste. When you're "kicking and screaming" as your wife tries to reduce your meat consumption, maybe take a moment to think of the animals you're killing literally kicking and screaming while they're on their way to be slaughtered.

If you REALLY believe plants are equivalent to animals in terms of being sentient, which I do not think you actually believe, then you should choose to eat plants because you must realize that you're killing a lot of plants to feed all those animals you're eating.

I started this post to share information I found interesting regarding plant-based diets and UC. I should have known that people here would get upset about that for whatever reason.

Sara....you've misunderstood once again. Respectfully, however, I suggest you read to understand as well.
q

😲 crimony... now you've done it.
q

'Based on her threads on this forum, life has to suck walking around with so much anger and attitude towards everyone/everything in life'
Really??? that's bullcrap. Based on her threads on this forum, I find her much more sensitive and better than others

Watch it bull.

KYguy said...

Oligodar said...
This topic has been discussed here several times. There are many people who had been on PBD (vegan, vegetarian) and then got UC. There are anecdotal reports from people who claims to cure their UC with solely carnivore diet. I personally know a man who eat only meat and animal fat. He was able to discontinue biologics and prednisone and now he is in remission. He has documented his progress on the Internet with lab results.

I still have a suspicion that artificial additives are the problem.

I think that it wasn't the meat that got him into remission but the meat is high in B vitamins as well as Vitamin D! Perhaps it is the vitamins that he needed which can also be found in plants. I wouldn't recommend meat only because it takes longer to digest leaving us more prone to potential bacterial triggers?

Post Edited (HJQuinn) : 10/14/2019 9:43:27 AM (GMT-6)

Hi. I’m brand new to this forum. Thanks for this discussion even though for you veterans it may be repetitious. I’ve always felt that my diet effects the length of remissions between flares and secretly hoped there was a dietary solution to this illness. Recently, I’ve been experimenting with a PBD after watching the movie, “Forks Over Knives” on Netflix. These MDs seemed more focused on decreasing heart disease and diabetes than UC, but the glowing testimonials were enticing. Also, I have heart disease in my family. My gut is in remission from UC right now so I can tolerate more fiber. However, I’m having trouble introducing the vegetable proteins back into my diet. Beans, peas, soy, etc. not working so well as staples for protein. Consistent gas, bloating, and that hard-to-describe instability I feel right before a flare.
What I found fascinating about this discussion was that some people seem to feel better, with less symptoms while eating poultry, red meat, etc.! This was helpful for me because I have found the same thing. I often joke that my gut seems to stabilize when I’m eating “bad” (my judgment) like a burger, pizza, tri-tip sandwiches, fast-food, candy, etc. It’s always puzzling to me. I’m NOT advocating eating fast food or bags of candy, but this discussion made me rethink my plan to cut out all animal protein. I seem to do better with flesh/fish protein in my diet. Doesn’t mean I can’t add more veggies, fruits, nuts, etc. and decrease the fried foods, sugar, and Diet Coke.
It’s a great help for me to hear everyone’s real-life experience with their diets and about new research. It reminds me to keep exploring and pay closer attention to what works for me. Went out to get chicken and eggs tonight 🙂.

Limak, I have troubles with veggies also. What’s helped me is noticing that it’s not ALL veggies and eating the ones I can tolerate. I have also been over cooking my beans, lentils, veggies and eating a small portion if I’m not sure and waiting. The IBD AID site has recipes and tips for smoothies soups and stews that you can add for veggie vitamins. On another topic I’ve also been eating oats in oat bread or cooked on the stove (with blueberries) every day. It might be psychosomatic but I really feel like they are soothing and good for my gut