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Posted 11/9/2007 5:32 AM (GMT 0)
$50 for three months is not a bad idea when something is working.

Posted 11/9/2007 11:54 AM (GMT 0)
Totally agree seermaag :) I have been on this for about 3 weeks (?) and I get a 30 day supply at my local health food store. It was on sale for $17 - not sure if that is a good price for a 30 day supply or not. But it is definately working for me. For the first time in ages, I actually have some form to my bm's and I'm only going to the bathroom once a day opposed to my typical 2 or 3. So it's definately working for me.
Posted 11/9/2007 1:45 PM (GMT 0)
Question for Red_34, I noticed you are taking Forvia, could you tell me please from where I can order this vitamin, I live in Toronto. Also if you can tell me whre to order Pro-Bio from.

Thanks.
Posted 11/9/2007 2:51 PM (GMT 0)
I get my Forvia at www.forvia.com and it usually ships to my home within a few days. Not sure how long it would take for Canada. And the Pro-Bio website can be found on the first page of this post.
Posted 11/9/2007 2:56 PM (GMT 0)
so Red-34 you think the Pro-Bio has helped you to have formed BM's
Posted 11/9/2007 2:59 PM (GMT 0)
Most definately! I always had mush or as I call them "poopie chips" (not attractive sounding but hey, it describes it! lol), no matter what I tried so I've been thrilled to actually see some kind of form for a change.
Posted 11/9/2007 3:51 PM (GMT 0)
Red how many do you take a day, and when do you take them.

If you already posted this sorry.
Posted 11/9/2007 7:32 PM (GMT 0)

seermaag said...
$50 for three months is not a bad idea when something is working.


I agree that if its working use it, but im just saying i got the same ingredients for less $. If  money is no issue then order the overpriced version, but this looks like an issue of generic medication vs name brand. The generic seems to be working for me so will continue taking it until otherwise. I asked the pharmicist and my doctor and both agreed.  They also agreed that its a good idea to take the Probiotic for UC so i guess thats the point of this thread anyway, is does it help. Apparently it does, so get some and try it. I currently take 2 a day since i just got over a major flare up. Will probably taper down to 1 a day after a week or so. Additionally i found this site which includes a cleaning supplement for the colon and digestive system. Might try this one when finished with the Natures Bounty Extra Strength Probiotic. The Colon Health Pack  http://www.ph-ion.com/ppc/lactobacillus.htm

Good Luck

Posted 11/9/2007 8:39 PM (GMT 0)
Honestly, it is very rare when any two probiotic supplements are alike. L. acidophilus is a very common one, though a good one. Heck, most yogurt contains this one and probably more than most supplements. Bottom line is that if something is working for you, then go for it and save money if you can.

ProBio has a couple specific stains that don't appear to be common to other brands, something they seem to boast about, and enteric coating may help if any of the bacteria is sensitive to stomach acid. Some info: http://www.enzymedica.com/pdf/probio.pdf . I've noticed some sudden benefits when I took it, but was inconsistent and since then I've been consistent and have seen definite improvement, though I'm not the best case in point in that I'm taking a lot of other things. As far as I can tell, however, with all the probiotics I've been trying and with other people that have benefited, I am inclined to believe it is a good one.

seermag,
Your husband may also benefit from getting a good source of "prebiotics" or food for the probiotics. As I understand it, fruits, veggies, and whole grains are best, while refined carbs are better for the bad bacteria. Also, getting fermented food like saurkraut and pickles made in salt, not vinegar, contain probiotics and something I am just now starting to eat. And of course cultured dairy is really good: yogurt, kefir, and cheese 'w/ cultures'. One swiss cheese is called emmental or emmentaler apparently has a bacteria that has been shown to promote a healthy colon microflora--just 1.5 ounces contains about 40 billion live Propionibacteria. I've been researching this for a while, in case you are wondering.
Posted 11/9/2007 8:57 PM (GMT 0)
I take one in the morning on an empty stomach. It says to only take one but more can be taken if needed. I am seeing great results with just one so I probably will just stay at that dose.
Posted 11/10/2007 11:19 PM (GMT 0)
I actually forgot about the sauerkraut and will look at the organic store to buy the proper fermented one now. After reading this board I also added fibre (4 fiber by Genisistoday) which really helped him a lot. It is overwhelming at times for the whole family (as everybody knows) but his situation is getting better with probiotcs, fibre, and I also added a green smoothie to his diet since he was getting sick all the time (colds, flu). All this seems to work because he hasn't had a cold for months now.
Posted 11/13/2007 1:41 AM (GMT 0)
seermaag,
Glad to hear things are going better for him. Lately I've been buying non-sweetened yogurt and adding an excellent fiber sweetner that contains FOS and stevia, which helps the cultures flurish and helps with the sour taste. The odd thing is that I was for some reason very set against having fiber because I associated it with roughage and my colon didn't need any more roughing up. And that might be true to some extent or in limited amounts, but there is a difference between the rough, insoluable fiber and soluable fiber, where the later is the kind that probiotics use. This may explain why I have not been as benefited from the probiotics as I would have if I made this fiber a part of my diet.

You may benefit from the book, "the Probiotic Revolution" by Gary Huffnagle--I have learned a great deal from him. I like it because he explains quite bit of the whys and hows from a scientific perspective (with data) and has a very practical approach to making eating "a family affair", with even some quick meal receipes, which is probably the only way one can get me to cook. He and his family noticed great improvements without going overboard, because he has asthma and allergies and noticed his kids were showing some of these signs and eczema even; but with these changes they all benefited, not surprisingly.
Posted 11/13/2007 3:38 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the info ralativelyquantum, I will get the book by Gary Huggnagle because I believe probiotics to be one of the biggest "healers" in my husbands sickness. Since we are a family full of allergies we can only benefit from this.
Posted 11/13/2007 7:26 PM (GMT 0)
I am really glad to hear that it has worked so well for him and I hope it benefits your whole family. The author is Professor at Michigan and I found that I gained a lot more insight into my disease (as well as others) in the process.
Posted 1/27/2008 6:05 PM (GMT 0)
Any updates on Pro-bio good or bad?
Posted 1/28/2008 12:22 AM (GMT 0)
its still doing me fine as far as I know.
Posted 1/28/2008 1:45 AM (GMT 0)
Anyone have a comparison of this to the Garden of Life probiotics?  I ran out a bit ago and would try something different....  I wonder how good Garden of Life really is?  I have heard some stuff about them being a scam, etc... 

Posted 1/28/2008 4:03 AM (GMT 0)
I've tried Garden of Life and I can't say I've seen any huge difference. Likely going to drop them in favor of something else. I just know in general, just taking various types of probiotics has helped. Probio seemed to be more obvious, however. Florastor also seems to help.
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