probiotics and fun-guy!

I don't want to bring up a controversial topic again but I'm about three weeks into intensive probiotic treatment and the results continue to amaze me. I'm about to go two days in a row with just 1 BM each. That last happened on the 15th / 16th September 2005!

Over the course of the last week my digestion has improved enormously - the gas has gone, the burbing is gone, not even a murmur from the bowel not a hint of bloating. I've eaten sugar, burgers, chocolate, dairy, wheat over that period and its like I have my old system back. What further amazes me is other problems that have suddenly cleared up. I feel great, my concentration is excellent, I'm sleeping better even my eyesight has suddenly become real sharp.

Either this is just some freak event or the probiotics have brought about a major change in my body. I presume if it is as a result of probiotics that I must have had some bad fungi growths in my body

I don't claim this to be a cure for IBD (I'm still in remission for about 8 months) but it would seem to be a major breakthrough for my IBS.

I guess I'm wondering has anyone had similar success with probiotics especially curing and improving non - digestive issues like brain-fog, headaches etc.

I haven't used any anti-fungal med. I've been thinking about it but truth be told I'm afraid it will upset the current blance I seem to have reached.

Interested in others thoughts.

D

 

Damo, that is awesome that you are doing so well! I wished I could say the same too but hey, if it's working for you then super!

I'm in Ireland so the brand names may differ. But bascially I've been filing my gut with

Acidophillus, L.Casei Immunitas and Bifidobacterium lactis.

I take slighlty more than the dose they advice.

It needed 3 weeks to work and during that time my BM worsended and the gas was really bad. I then got a die off reaction for 2 days but woke up the next day with perfect stools. Right now things are great. I had a sour feeling in my stomach and intestines for about a year. Thats gone now and I really feel very healthy in there.

I was also taking Asacol during that year. I've given that up and I think it has really helped my stomach.

D

For me it was the intensity of use that brought about the change. I was only taking them now and then when I felt bad. And when I did they made things worse and I gave up. But this time I just kept taking them through the bad times. They seemed to reach a critical point and then it was like BOOM...big change to stomach and bowel habits.

Well it does seem that anytime one mentions the fungus connection or SCD the next thing you know it theres 30+ posts debating the issue and having totally missed the point. I've posted before on this issue and quite frankly I didn't like the reation. On one occassion a regular member on here actually said that it was becasue "your male that you don't see the theory is wrong". Another regular member said I was in "denial with myself". My reluctancy comes from such replies.

Back to the probiotics. I really think it needs intensive treatment to overcome the bad bacteria. I should also add that I was on and off probiotics for a good bit before I stepped up my regieme. So maybe its a long term thing you need to keep up.

Probiotics seem to regulate my IBS. I hope they do something to my IBD too. I think they benefit everyone with stomach and bowel issues. Mine actually taste like strawberry-candy. It's the first time I've ever eaten something that tastes nice and is actually very good for you.

I'm not sure of the number...the dosage is in term of how many cartons or how many supplements...i work it as follows:

Day 1: Normal dose
Day 2: 1.5 x dose
Day 3: Double dose
Day 4: Normal dose....etc

It's only when i started at higher dosage that the stomach got better. It's funny but I feel that the probiotics are helping my stomach first and foremost and then that the bowel is being helped as a result of this.

Activa Bioyoughrts
Danone Bio-drinks
The Acidophillus is just a fruity sweet

I try and take them between meals and not with hot food cos the heat kills the bacteria.

The first thing to get better for me was my taste. It was like "wow i cldnt taste how good the food was for the last while".

I've also spaced on my diet. I eat the same amount but rather than have 3 big meals i just eat something every hour. I'm actually eating more than I was but the bowel and stomach seem to like the fact that theres never too much too breakdown.

My digestive system is far from normal but at least now it has the space to breathe (quite literally with the extra bacteria)

Damo,

the fact that you experienced die off means that the probiotics was doing it's job in killing off bad bacteria (and maybe candida as well). Stick to your regime and don't go crazy with 'bad' foods...so you can keep things under control; I really think you're onto something here...I am also using Bifidobacterium lactis, but for enemas (though you can add it in powdered form, to drinks). There is hope for us...

Thanks for sharing.

NBT

I really need to quiz my Dr. on this stuff. He had me go off of Digestive Advantage Chrones and Colitis while I was flareing but now that I seem to be on the mend I wonder what his thoughts would be about restarting or even getting on some of the "better" stuff like Damo is taking.

Princesa,

So how much probiotic should be taken per day in terms of millions of cells like they quote on the Acidophillus supplements. They say 2 million for a normal dosage. I presume thats way too low?

D

wow 7 billion.....so an IBDer probably ned 3-4 times the dosage of a non-IBDer.

I presume too much probitic cant cause other problems?

Just out of curiosity, how many yogurts are you having per day, damo? I usually have one DanActive or Activia per day plus two Digestive Advantage.
I called the Digestive Advantage people about how much bacteria is in one pill, and I think they told me 25 mg. Anyone have an idea of how much that is in per cell/CFU?

lemonhead said...
Damo, what probiotics are you using???? Please tell. I use Dr. Ohira's 12 plus and I really don't seem to see a big difference. Also, how many are you taking. Those directions say to start with a loading dose of 8/day, then taper down,....that would get really expensive at 35 bucks for 90 pills. If you have a brand that you like, please share. I will try anything to get where you are!!

I saw the biggest difference when I took 5 of those, took a small nail to poke a hole in them, put them in around 30-40ml distilled water in an enema bottle, shook them up good, put them in the other way, and turned myself upside down so it could get to all my colon.  Been doing this for several weeks now every two or three days. Stopped my 2 month bout of the big D.  I'm gonna try going down to just one or two shortly and see how that does.  They are expensive....