HealingWell
Search Close Search
☰

psyllium seed

Support Forums
>
Ulcerative Colitis
✚ New Topic ✚ Reply
❬ ❬ Previous Thread |Next Thread ❭ ❭
Posted 1/25/2010 3:29 PM (GMT 0)
Are people buying whole psyllium seed and then grinding it at home, or are people taking psyllium seed capsules or are ground psyllium seeds easily available?

What is a good dosage for psyllium seed?

I am assuming this is different than the psyllium powder, or psyllium seed husks.

Thanks,

Ls

Posted 1/25/2010 6:53 PM (GMT 0)
I use powder which I bought from www.starwest-botanicals.com/product/2-psyllium-seed-powder.html.

Per this study, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10022641, 10 grams twice a day was used to get similar results as Asacol.

I determined that 10 grams is about two teaspoons of powder. During my last flare I took one teaspoon twice a day for about three weeks with no effect. Once I went to two teaspoons twice a day then my flare quickly came under control, 12 stools to 4 stools a day within a few days.
Posted 1/25/2010 11:21 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for this information. I will order some and build myself up to a teaspoon per day and see how that goes. I face more issues with constipation, so I don't want to run into any problems.
Ls
Posted 1/26/2010 12:04 AM (GMT 0)
Take it on an empty stomach? Opps. I normally take it in the morning right when I get up then I take my meds and eat.
First day I took the seed powder I didn't have a bm until this morning and it was an "almost" perfect stool. Then there were 2 others after it that were semiloose but I had chili last night that had corn in it :/
Posted 1/26/2010 12:24 AM (GMT 0)
Can you tell me do I mix the psyllium seed powder in water? Can the psyllium seed powder be mixed in the with husk powder in one drink. Do I need the husk powder if I'm doing the seed powder?

Does it replace psyllium husk. I'm taking the psyllium husk one tbs a day in water to keep myself regular. My stools could be a little softer to be perfect.
Posted 1/26/2010 1:42 AM (GMT 0)
I mix mine with Nestle Quik and milk and let it set for about 10 minutes, which allows it to thicken, before I give it one final mix and drink it down. I try to have mine at least one hour before breakfast and supper although I usually have it two hours before breakfast and supper.

As long as you drink enough liquids then I wouldn't believe that there would be an issue with having both together. I drink my powder with 8 ounces of milk and then drink another 4 to 6 ounces of water when I rinse the glass out.

I haven't looked into using husk powder so I can't comment on its replacement.
Posted 1/27/2010 7:06 AM (GMT 0)
I take the psyllium seeds whole with plenty of water

Late at night seems best for me ( or at least two hours after meds etc)

Seeds have better absorption than husks

I'm having success since adding CHIA and sunflower seeds to the diet

Posted 1/27/2010 4:13 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for your tips on how to take the psyllium husk seed powder. I only take psyllium husk now, but should I thnk I need more I will add the seed powder.

newshinycd, I hear your regimen and it concerns me. I think you need to space your psyll husk drinks from your pills because it affects the effectiveness of the pills. . One hour before pills or two hours after is what I;ve heard and people are saynig that on this thread.

ellen

Posted 1/27/2010 6:32 PM (GMT 0)
Yea, lol.

I took a break for a day to see how the seed powder was helping me. This morning I had 4bms compared to 1 the other day.
I think I'm going to start taking it at night though because I will have time to space it out from my meds. In the morning I only have enough time to eat and leave :/
Posted 1/27/2010 7:43 PM (GMT 0)
Some on this forum explain how they mix psyllium with Nestle Quik. That is fine, everyone is different. For me Quik is poison because it contains carrageenan. For most I am sure it is no problem, but check this out:

Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine by Michael Murray and Joseph Pizzorno, page 593:

"Researchers investigating ulcerative colitis often use carrageenan (a compound extracted from red seaweeds) to experimentally induce the disease in animals. In the initial experiments reported by Marcus and Watt in 1969, one-percent and five-percent carrageenan solutions were provided as the exclusive source of oral fluids for guinea pigs. Over a period of several days, the animals lost weight, developed anemia, had bloody diarrhea, and developed ulcerative colitis. These results have since been confirmed by numerous investigators and in studies involving diverse animal species, including primates."

http://www.labelwatch.com/prod_results.php?pid=362011

I am not trying to criticize, just trying to be helpful. Once the message is out I promise to shut up.
Posted 1/27/2010 8:04 PM (GMT 0)
I am currently taking 2t. twice daily. It isn't helping me a whole lot-I might up it again and see if that helps or hurts. I can not take it on an empty stomach-that DEFINITELY makes things worse for me. So I take mine in between breakfast and lunch and then before bed. Always apart from me meds.

Also, to babeinthewoods-I am using Nesquik and milk for mine, and it doesn't have carrageenan in it. That isn't to say it is healthy, but here are the ingredients in the syrup I am using:

"Sugar, water, cocoa processed with alkali, less than 2% of: salt, citric acid, artificial flavor, potassium sorbate (preservative), xanthan gum, caramel color, red 40, blue 1, yellow 6."

Still not an all natural product, but I bought it because it doesn't have carrageenan and it also doesn't have HFCS.
Posted 1/28/2010 2:14 AM (GMT 0)
Supa, I would agree with babeinthewoodsthat Nesquik is a no go

Milk is a definite no go - unless you're a B blood type

Posted 1/28/2010 2:50 AM (GMT 0)
What does B blood type have to do with being able to consume milk? I'm A+ and have no issues with dairy.
Posted 1/28/2010 2:56 AM (GMT 0)
B type blood is the exact same sugar as milk

Any other blood type reacts with milk and creates mucus and antibodies

I'm A+ as well

www.dadamo.com

Posted 1/28/2010 2:57 AM (GMT 0)
I use the husk powder. I mix it with my powdered protein in rice milk. Only 1 teaspoon & it's working great for me.
I usually have it in the morning in between breakfast & lunch. As far as additional fluid...I drink PLENTY of water throughout the day
so that's not an issue for me.
Posted 1/28/2010 3:27 AM (GMT 0)
Ah, that's not something I buy into....
No offense intended, just not my type of science.
Posted 1/28/2010 7:05 AM (GMT 0)
Kasbah, are you referring to this type of idea...

http://www.all4naturalhealth.com/blood-type-b-diet.html

even in this article it kinda says the opposite of what you say (referring to type B's and lactose), basically saying it's fine for type B's but in moderation except for those that are lactose intolernat, which to me kinda throws the whole theory into the water.

I don't know how valid this type of idea is...I'm type B, I had severe lactose intolerance (twice in my life), used lactaid products until I discovered that taking a good probiotic which aids with lactose intolerance issues works just fine for me.

I couldn't find anything from the mayo clinic or any other reliable source regarding eating right for your blood type though so I'm on the fence regarding the theory, not syaing it isn't true, just like to have reliable evidence regarding it.

:)

Posted 1/28/2010 12:16 PM (GMT 0)
My GI said husk powder (Metamucil) is basically a foo, so meds that can be taken with food are ok to be taken near Meteamucil, for whatever that's worth.

I take Asacol 4 times a day and VSL between, so I don't have too much room for other things between meals.....
Posted 1/28/2010 2:22 PM (GMT 0)

I’m sure it’s been posted elsewhere but what action does the seed actually have?

I believe I read it absorbs water giving a firmer stool but does not bulk things up like the husk. I also get the impression that it makes for a slick stool that comes out easy. Does the slickness come from the mucus of your colon as the fibrous stool scrapes it away or is it the wet psyllium seed itself? I hate to think that I am scraping away mucus that is providing some healing effect. Maybe I want that though…thoughts?

 

I always have a loose stool. Even in remission my stool may only occasionally be firm (never hard). When I take the husk in remission it makes for a larger, slick stool that comes out easy. In a flare the husk bulks things up so as to cause severe pain.

 

For about 6 weeks (since the hospital stay) I’ve been on a no fiber diet and am healing quite well (going into remission) and would like to introduce some fiber now. I would actually like to add 30% bulk and 70% dryness to my stools. I may try a combo of seed and husk after first just trying the seed. I believe I already have the combo powder which I could just add pure seed powder to.

Posted 1/28/2010 3:27 PM (GMT 0)
As everyone probably knows, I'm into Metamucil, but a few days ago I started adding 1 teaspoon of the seed powder to my second dose of Metamucil. So far the results have been good: firm but easy-sliding poops, fewer, no blood.

I'll be interested in seeing how this progresses as the days go on. I am impressed by the research about the butyrates, and though I don't expect a magic bullet, I am hoping it would help some.
Posted 1/29/2010 6:17 AM (GMT 0)
pb

The article is a really brief half page summary of a complicated subject

I can see why you're confused by it

This is a science that is really worth understanding

Reading "Live right 4 your type" or one of dadamo's other books might give you a clearer explanation

Works wonders for me

 

Posted 1/29/2010 7:35 AM (GMT 0)
Well it's certainly something that I would investigate further into, I find ideas like that interesting...you never know what may really come of it and I hate to rule out anything completely, especially if I don't know enough about it, or unless it's an idea comming from a source(s) that aren't credible, then I don't necessarily put alot of time into it of course.

Thanks for sharing :)
Posted 1/29/2010 8:37 AM (GMT 0)
pb4
My blood type is A Rh(D) positive
I have a O + recessive gene (from one parent)
I am a non secretor (very important to know)

Every blood type is different
It's not just a case of being O A AB
Everyones blood will react differently with each type of food
It's one chemical reacting with another
The body does one of three things
It rejects the food and treats it as toxic, (creates mucus etc)
it is neutral and doesn't react,
Or it sees the foods as beneficial
the idea is to eat as much beneficial food as possible (75% of your diet)
this is a very simplistic explanation of course
I just didn't want to seem that I was brushing you off
Posted 1/29/2010 6:43 PM (GMT 0)
Yes, in the past here at HW people have mentioned "Eating Right For Your Blood Type" and I found it intriguing, but I never did take investigating it any further, probably will at some point though...I'm glad you've found benefit from it and as always that is the main thing...and don't worry I wasn't under any impression that you were brushing me off or anything :)...Thanks for sharing what helps you, I think it's very important we all do that cuz we never know what we might stumble on that will work for us if we don't know what helps others.

:)
✚ New Topic ✚ Reply