CANDIDA

I realized that I have had a candida problem since my early teens. Has anyone done much reading on a connection between UC and Candida? Currently taking something to kill off candida. The first week I felt worse and brain-dead. I wanted to drive off a cliff. I got a stool sample down and it was confirmed that I had yeast in my stool! I think that this along with diet is really going to help me in this fight to manage this monster.

oh sorry if you are trying to tackle the SCD diet. i always suggest that you reduce the sugar in it. So eat like 1 piece of fruit a day. and stay away from honey and carrots and parsnips. I know that some people can get away with those but if you want to find out if you go into remission then omit them and see if candida is feeding on the sugars. take care.

Wow-This is all really good info. Thanks so much. I think I just found a new plan of attack! Fortunately I follow the SCD diet so I am used to no sugar and refined foods and such! Thanks again!

@ Hellokitty,

Could you please enlighten me with the scientific source of your knowledge. Unless there is any evidence, please don't spread half baked knowledge. There is NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS for your comments, please retract them, else provide scientific evidence.

If you are pointing towards fungal infection of Candida albicans, then its just regular yeast that would attack you when your immune system is compromised, like those on pred will notice their tongue getting whiter, thats Candida. You treat candida with antifungals. There is no evidence that fungal infections cause IBD, even though there is an ill-informed webpage of a guy who claims he treated IBD with nystatin, which I strongly think as BS. I am not in the US otherwise I would have taken great efforts to meet him in person.

The doctor treating you has more knowledge than any of the patients (unless the patient is a doctor too) Ask him/her before you do anything because there is actually quite a strong case that your unadvised 'medication/supplement' is causing trouble than cure.

It is so frustrating that many folks on this board spread ill-baked knowledge thinking that they know everything or what they are doing is best. My attitude is, if you believe in your statement is correct, provide scientific evidence, else state that you are doing it and its helping you but there is no scientific evidence. Many first time visitors here are in distress, don't show them any false hopes or give them any false information. Don't give them a chance to build their castle in thin air.


@lild,
Talk to your doctor and if its not your GI doc then whoever you talk to, tell them your current diagnosis and medication you are taking. Let them decide whats wrong with you.

Let me get this thing straight. My frustration is not about her advice. As I have already said, many alternative therapies work and there is no evidence for it. My mom herself, now a treated patient, has drank a lot of cabbage juice and it has helped her. No scientific evidence for it.

My main argument is about her statements connected to Candida, Candida being a cause of IBD. In fact, IBD caused Candida infection. Chronic Candida infection is a sign of something else, that a doctor is suppose to diagnose. From my knowledge and search, Candida being a cause of IBD is totally baseless.

BTW, if something worked for you and not working for me is the case, I will never be in such mood. We have genetic diversity and that is indeed a cause of such issue. Hence, I have made myself very clear that something works for you but has no scientific evidence for it, state that. Looks like you didn't read all messages and my reply correctly.

FINALLY, I have nothing to lose if this board is inundated with false / ill-baked information. I can certainly walk out. My belief, after going through really a lot of posts on this board, is, I have a scientific background that very few here have. Some have gained a really good wealth of knowledge over the period of their suffering of this disease for e.g. quincy on this board. Hence, I am trying to clear dark clouds of misunderstandings and/ or ill-baked knowledge. If thats offending anyone, well be it.

deltaforce said:
Let me get this thing straight. My frustration is not about her advice. As I have already said, many alternative therapies work and there is no evidence for it. My mom herself, now a treated patient, has drank a lot of cabbage juice and it has helped her. No scientific evidence for it.

But there IS scientific evidence that cabbage juice heals ulcers. A doctor conducted a study in the 1940's. It clearly showed people becoming cured of ulcers. It was never followed up. Glutamine (a component of cabbage) has also been shown to heal ulcers.

My main argument is about her statements connected to Candida, Candida being a cause of IBD. In fact, IBD caused Candida infection. Chronic Candida infection is a sign of something else, that a doctor is suppose to diagnose. From my knowledge and search, Candida being a cause of IBD is totally baseless.

BTW, if something worked for you and not working for me is the case, I will never be in such mood. We have genetic diversity and that is indeed a cause of such issue. Hence, I have made myself very clear that something works for you but has no scientific evidence for it, state that. Looks like you didn't read all messages and my reply correctly.

I did not disagree/agree that Candida causes IBD. I follow SCD which believes that an overgrowth of bad gut flora (unnnamed IIRC) causes the symptoms of IBD/UC.

FINALLY, I have nothing to lose if this board is inundated with false / ill-baked information. I can certainly walk out. My belief, after going through really a lot of posts on this board, is, I have a scientific background that very few here have. Some have gained a really good wealth of knowledge over the period of their suffering of this disease for e.g. quincy on this board. Hence, I am trying to clear dark clouds of misunderstandings and/ or ill-baked knowledge. If thats offending anyone, well be it.

You aren't offending me. I just wanted to make clear that there have been studies done on certain elements of diet modification, but not nearly enough. None of the natural supplements can be patented therefore no one has done studies on them in many many years.
Elaine Gottschall created the Specific Carbohydrate Diet and collaborated with a medical doctor to cure her daughter of UC, the information is free on the internet. It will not harm those who try it and it could very well help.

I understand your issue about "candida" but that is what hellokitty calls it. I just call it the "bad guys".

Interesting discussion...i do have a gnarly white coat on my tongue while taking prednisone. My husband has noticed my breath smelling quite differently too.

I agree that diet it key...you just have to find the right one for you and this can be challenging.

im just giving advice on things that have really helped me. Im not pretending to be all knowing or something. It is just information that came to me and has helped me out. i was getting alot of those symptoms. especailly the tiredness and the heart pulpations. I havent had any of that since the diet. I used to get all sorts of things. here were my symptoms. heart pulpatations panic attatcks joint pain bleeding everyday loads of mucus coating on my toung ear ringing funny enough i never had any stomach pain until last year april. thats when i had a majour flare. then the stomach pain was every where. right side left side. i was going 20 times a day as well. then when i got the flare under control sort of i started having this urgency. I was taking the pantesa but i was still having the urgency. it was horrible i was worried about traveling on the tubs and i coulent do early shifts at my last job because morrnings were my bigest problems. my doctors didnt' help at all. they just said oh well that is IBD or you will get IBS from time to time. that is normal. I had one doctor say that her patients have bleeding but dont worry about it they are fine. You know the doctors didnt even dignose me with IBD. I had to dignose my self. I did it through the internet and this health book i had. I had to pay for private medical to get dignose. it took me about 9 months to get a dignosis. and you know what they said I have UC but i dont know really I may have crohns i dont really trust what they tell me anymore. I feel that they really do not know how to dignose this illness, and i feel they dont know how to treat it. So im not telling anyone not to listen to their doctor, but as for me my doctors really dont know what is going on. and i dont trust them. They earn more money than me and i was the one who dignosed me not them. the site i got was from a web page called giveittomeraw. you can get alot of health information from that site. the site was not from Gerald, but yea it is very simular to what he says and what his books are about . I was really supprised to read it. good luck lild you know what is best for your body and you will make the right dicisions for you. :)

Collicat it is interesting what you said about antibiotics. acutally when my uc started i had not been on any. infact i took no medication. i was experiecing alot of these symptoms with out being on medications. especailly the tiredness and the panic attatcks. my astma also improved when i changed my diet. I used to have to take my inhaler when i went into a new house or stayed with some one. I used to sneeze everymorrning. Now that doesnt happen. but i wasent on antibiotics at all. the only drups i took was the mesalizine. ive never been on pred or remicade or any of those. thats why my only guess is that the cause was due to my diets of high sugars. I was a pastry chef and i did work for Godiva and Libertys chocolate shop. i dont really want to say im IBD free or anything im just trying to say ive really improved my situation. alot. Im now working full time and riding my bike to work and things. I rember being so tired i could not walk down the street. oh well this is my story so far. :)