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Posted 12/11/2012 12:59 PM (GMT 0)
I don't think I can tolerate more than 2 teaspoons a day. I had spasms when I tried more.
Posted 12/11/2012 5:20 PM (GMT 0)
I doubt it will do much but I love the taste! We got lots of different brands to choose from here in New Zealand.
Posted 12/11/2012 6:35 PM (GMT 0)
I've ocassionally used the Wedderspoons 100% raw organic (#2 amber) It looks and tastes like regular churned honey.    It costs about $16 for a 500g jar in Ontario for the 'active 12+' and a few bucks more for the 16+.    I don't really know the significence of these numbers.

I tried the black **** a few years ago, it was vile.

Posted 12/11/2012 7:06 PM (GMT 0)
Mackster...what was asterisked out..just curious!

http://www.wedderspoon.ca/shop/pages/FAQ.html

FYI about the grading system to answer your question.

q

Posted 12/12/2012 3:30 AM (GMT 0)
Q, four letters, it begins with an 's'.............and ends with a 't'.

When you actually think about it, it should be the least censored word on this particular forum!

Hope that helps... devil

Posted 12/12/2012 5:54 AM (GMT 0)
Ah, got it!...but we can say that word in so many different ways...
q
Posted 12/12/2012 2:08 PM (GMT 0)
Been there done that years ago,of course on me it did nothing.
Old Mike
Posted 12/13/2012 12:21 AM (GMT 0)
Ah Manuka honey.

I don't think it will do any harm for UC. But I suspect it's better for stomach and dental complaints, H-Pylori, sore throats and the like oh and external use on wounds. I'm not sure the benefits would reach the colon but i guess it may have some systemic benefits for UC sufferers. I use it occasionally, and enjoy it.

However being a Kiwi I should be extolling it's virtues much more so you should all buy it and help our economy! In fact buy it by the bucket load!

In a few weeks i will be cutting down a few manuka trees at my mother in laws place (don't worry there are hundreds there). They're fairly non-descript, scrubby trees with dense wood. It makes great firewood and is good for BBQing with it's also great for smoking things like fish.
Posted 12/16/2012 1:33 AM (GMT 0)
Manuka honey is used in hospitals to fight MRSA. It's a anti inflammatory, Anti microbial, anti Fungal, it's been used for centuries. Ignorant people shouldn't pass judgment, especially if they are uniformed because it causes people to dismiss something that could in fact benefit them. To use something for a month and expect results is asking a lot. Especially when used internally. The problem with using the honey internally is being able to hold it where its needed for long enough for it to work. Manuka used topically proves itself. MRSA is Multi resistant staph, I doubt hospitals will resort to honey if it's not proven. I think if it was to be beneficial for UC it would be best used as enemas. You have to remember, ingested it has to make it to where it's needed and remain long enough to heal. Manuka is the only honey that doesn't lose it's healing power through heat or dilution, like other honeys. Also not all Manuka is the same. It has to be supplied by registered suppliers. Anyone can claim they sell Manuka, it originates from New Zealand. I would not use anything other than Watson & Son. I Also anything less than Active 20+ is useless for healing benefits. I have been mixing this honey with slippery elm with the hope of the slippery elm keeping it attached to the lining of the digestive tract for long enough for it to help heal. Dont dismiss something for others simply because it did nothing for you after a month :/ directions state to take it with a dry cracker to insure it stays in the stomach (for stomach Problems) for long as possible. Another suggestion would be to mix it with water and add pysillium. I'd prefer the slippery elm as it coats the digestive tract, this would allow the healing properties of the honey to remain for as long as the slippery elm. I'm yet to try enemas, and thats purely because I don't know how to use them safely. When I visit the center for digestives disease in Sydney it will be one of my questions.
Posted 12/16/2012 1:35 AM (GMT 0)
How exactly do they use it in hospitals to fight MRSA?


q
Posted 12/16/2012 1:36 AM (GMT 0)
They use it in gauze dressings
Posted 12/16/2012 1:46 AM (GMT 0)
I've used it topically myself on serious infections. I don't doubt it's ability for one second. The trick is to keep it where it's needed for as long as possible. Don't race out and buy the first jar that says Manuka, this is very expensive stuff. It cost me $100 for a 500ml jar. No what your buying. Also everyone's UC is not caused by the same thing. Don't dismiss something that may work for others. I believe my proc*** was caused by Roaccitane, I also believe many have this condition from long term antibiotics, as well as IBS sufferers. My sisters was on antibiotics for several months, she has IBS, Same as my friend. My son was also on roaccitane, he suffers bouts of un explained direah. No one here has the answers or this site wouldn't exist. Allow others to give postive advice without dismissing what didn't work for you!!

Post Edited (Petah) : 12/15/2012 6:53:59 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/16/2012 1:46 AM (GMT 0)
interesting.

In conjuncction with antibiotics too?

q
Posted 12/16/2012 1:54 AM (GMT 0)
No! Just dressings MRSA is resistant to antibiotics. They usually have to just keep cutting away the affected flesh..
Posted 12/16/2012 2:04 AM (GMT 0)
Funny someone mentioned it for Sinus use, because they are in the Middle of very promising studies for use on sinus's. I think it has to be administered as a nasal spray! Or maybe a neti pot, using sterile water. Who knows, my guess would be a nasal spray, allowing it to remain up into the sinus cavities. If intending to try it as a spray make sure saline is used. Water is full of who knows what!! Having the benefits it does externally is reason not to dismiss it for internal use. Think about it, why are medication time released? Expecting honey to work magic when it slides right through is asking a lot..slippery elm is the go I think, or enemas. I know I will keep using it.As for the sugar in Manuka, I don't believe all sugar is the same, just like all fats are not the same! We're not talking about a bag of Lollies. It's natural. So many myths out there. When I started including an avocado a day to my diet as well as sunflower seeds, I expected weight gain. What I got was the opposite. Avocado has the ability to heal the liver in as little as thirty days. Eaten before consumption of alcohol it protects the liver from cirrhosis. It causes the liver to function at its peak. I do not go a day without eating one. I started when I had my gallbladder removed. If only I knew of their benefits before, it might have been a surgery avoided, considering I never even suffered pain from gallstones. The hospital ripped it out anyway :/

Post Edited (Petah) : 12/15/2012 8:01:59 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/16/2012 3:43 AM (GMT 0)
Tried it and it worsened my symptoms.
Posted 12/16/2012 4:41 AM (GMT 0)
It is very rich, it can and has given me diareah if I've used the three teaspoons recommended daily.. It doesn't if it's diluted and as I've said, diluting does not affect the healing properties.
Posted 12/16/2012 11:17 PM (GMT 0)
Hi I have a lot of personal info on Active Manuka Honey.

Right, so I first heard of MH last year when I was abroad in Sydney. I heard about Manuka Honey online from http://www.colitisrecovery.com/ who posted a study that Manuka Honey helped the ulcer symptoms of mice with colitis. I researched it and could not believe that it was local to NZ, and quite popular in Australia. I popped by the local health food stores and found Active Manuka Honey 16+ and 20+ for around 24AUD.

After researching it thoroughly, I learned that anything less than 18+ is not suitable for internal purposes, but rather very good for external purposes. I remember coming across a website that showed a MRSA sore healing with Manuka Honey applied to it for a week. Amazing. I soon purchased the 20+ and began to test the affects on myself.

As the directions say, take on a piece of bread or cracker 30 minutes before a meal. This became my routine. I would eat a piece of bread COVERED in manuka honey 20+ every morning, every lunch, and every bed time. The immediate effects I noticed were that it helped bleeding tremendously... which makes sense. I mean, the blood is produced by an internal bleeding ulcer and it is proven Manuka Honey helps with stomach ulcers and external ulcers, so if it makes it's way to the colon... After using in conjunction with hydrocortisone enema, I entered a 2 month remission.

I had the pleasure of corresponding with Peter Molan Ph.D who is THE proprietor of Active Manuka Honey who has conducted lots of research at University of Waikato in NZ. He told me to make sure you buy Active Manuka Honey that has UMF license. (http://www.umf.org.nz/licensees) This is the only way to ensure the honey has been tested in a laboratory for it's active UMF benefits (rated on a number scale from 5+ to 30+)

Now, a year later, I haven't used manuka honey lately since I do not trust Wedderspoon (most popular commerical source in USA) and since I am on the SCD diet. Since Active Manuka Honey is antibacterial, it should act as anti-biotic: Not a goal of the SCD diet. I did use Active Manuka Honey in the beginning while on conjunction with prednisone and again, found relief of bleeding. But as I started to eat more yogurt and take probiotics, I began to realize the Active honey + probiotic may cancel each other out.

I agree on the Active Manuka Honey enema. Definitely worth it, but really expensive. I don't trust anything not from NZ. A Manuka Honey enema would most likely help colon ulcers tremendously...

Right now I am very happy with SCD diet, if things worsen up, Manuka Honey enema has one of the first things to try.

And right... A lot of people with UC will not tolerate honey due to high fructose/sugar content. Active Manuka Honey is specifically very sticky and caramelized... Honey is not the most suitable food for someone with digestive issues.
Posted 12/16/2012 11:55 PM (GMT 0)

mindoverbutter said...
Hi I have a lot of personal info on Active Manuka Honey.

Right, so I first heard of MH last year when I was abroad in Sydney. I heard about Manuka Honey online from http://www.colitisrecovery.com/ who posted a study that Manuka Honey helped the ulcer symptoms of mice with colitis. I researched it and could not believe that it was local to NZ, and quite popular in Australia. I popped by the local health food stores and found Active Manuka Honey 16+ and 20+ for around 24AUD.

After researching it thoroughly, I learned that anything less than 18+ is not suitable for internal purposes, but rather very good for external purposes. I remember coming across a website that showed a MRSA sore healing with Manuka Honey applied to it for a week. Amazing. I soon purchased the 20+ and began to test the affects on myself.

As the directions say, take on a piece of bread or cracker 30 minutes before a meal. This became my routine. I would eat a piece of bread COVERED in manuka honey 20+ every morning, every lunch, and every bed time. The immediate effects I noticed were that it helped bleeding tremendously... which makes sense. I mean, the blood is produced by an internal bleeding ulcer and it is proven Manuka Honey helps with stomach ulcers and external ulcers, so if it makes it's way to the colon... After using in conjunction with hydrocortisone enema, I entered a 2 month remission.

I had the pleasure of corresponding with Peter Molan Ph.D who is THE proprietor of Active Manuka Honey who has conducted lots of research at University of Waikato in NZ. He told me to make sure you buy Active Manuka Honey that has UMF license. (http://www.umf.org.nz/licensees) This is the only way to ensure the honey has been tested in a laboratory for it's active UMF benefits (rated on a number scale from 5+ to 30+)

Now, a year later, I haven't used manuka honey lately since I do not trust Wedderspoon (most popular commerical source in USA) and since I am on the SCD diet. Since Active Manuka Honey is antibacterial, it should act as anti-biotic: Not a goal of the SCD diet. I did use Active Manuka Honey in the beginning while on conjunction with prednisone and again, found relief of bleeding. But as I started to eat more yogurt and take probiotics, I began to realize the Active honey + probiotic may cancel each other out.

I agree on the Active Manuka Honey enema. Definitely worth it, but really expensive. I don't trust anything not from NZ. A Manuka Honey enema would most likely help colon ulcers tremendously...

Right now I am very happy with SCD diet, if things worsen up, Manuka Honey enema has one of the first things to try.

And right... A lot of people with UC will not tolerate honey due to high fructose/sugar content. Active Manuka Honey is specifically very sticky and caramelized... Honey is not the most suitable food for someone with digestive issues.

Interestingly, I studied at the University of Waikato and one of my good friends did her PhD with Dr Molan on Manuka honey and it's benefits in preventing dental cavities.

I don't doubt MH's medicinal usefulness one bit for wounds, antibacterial qualities etc. However I think the issue for UC sufferers is getting it to the site where it's needed i.e. the colon. Will taking it on a piece of cracker help? Maybe. But I suspect enemas may be the most efficient.

Has anyone tried that?
Posted 12/18/2012 9:36 PM (GMT 0)
I'd have a go at the manuka honey enema Jimbo. Possibly try to contact your mate who worked with Molan and ask em about it. I'm on SCD, and my stools are getting pretty awesome save for they scrape the ulcers some time. If manuka honey enema worked I'd totally try it, see if it can heal up these ulcers. It's just it's a bit too pricey for me.

How you feeling these days mate?
Posted 12/19/2012 1:12 AM (GMT 0)
Very interesting about the Manuka honey. I would be interested in making up suppositories at some point... Is the sugar content typical for a tablespoon of honey? Like 15-20g sugar?
Posted 12/20/2012 3:51 PM (GMT 0)
about that, possibly higher
Posted 1/30/2013 9:42 PM (GMT 0)
I have proctitis, and currently, an inflamed rectum which may be a fissure. I've been told that manuka honey can help speed up the healing process if your rectum is inflamed. I'm also taking a product called Key E suppositories to both help reduce the inflammation and help heal the area. Just started them yesterday, and I'm already sensing some relief.
Posted 3/9/2014 2:50 PM (GMT 0)
After suffering with UC since 2009 and never getting a good report from my colonoscopy I decided to try a complete vegan diet. I can honestly say that my tummy woes have left me. No gas, no bloating, no cramps and in general a calm feeling in my tummy. On February 17 I had my 6 month colonoscopy and was given a great report. I know this isn't for every person but I highly recommend the lifestyle change. My doctor was impressed with the test results. I'm curious about the manuka honey and will be looking into information that might aid in my journey to a healthy colon.
Posted 3/9/2014 2:57 PM (GMT 0)
Several here have tried a vegan diet and it made them worse. Some got better, and some where it did nothing. Same with manuka honey. Some came down with UC after switching to a Vegan diet. Many get better on a strict Paleo diet with lots of meats. Unfortunately, UC is not such a simple disease where one size fits all. I'm glad you were able to find what works for you.
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