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Posted 3/20/2012 1:38 PM (GMT 0)
CLA may be an effective treatment for IBD. A major natural source is grass fed meat and milk from grass fed cows. Of course when given the choice grass fed is always better than grain fed for a host of reasons. Similarly wild caught fish is much better than farm raised fish.

The 2nd article is about the ordinary strains of lactic acid bacteria, such as in VSL#3, can start producing CLA in the presence of linoleic acid. Linoleic acid is an omega-6 fatty acid. Both omega-6 and omega-3 are essential, but our current diets tend to have a ratio of 20:1 of omega-6 to omega-3, when a more healthy proportion should be closer to 4:1.

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120319194215.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Latest+Science+News%29
CLA affords those afflicted with mild to moderate IBD an effective treatment without the unwanted side effects of many synthetic drugs. "Furthermore, we have demonstrated that probiotic bacteria can produce CLA locally and suppress colitis.

jn.nutrition.org/content/136/6/1483.short
Incubation of probiotic bacteria (VSL3, Lactobacillus acidophilus, L. bulgaricus, L. casei, L. plantarum, Bifidobacterium breve, B. infantis, B. longum, and Streptococcus thermophilus) in the presence of LA yielded CLA production
Posted 3/20/2012 5:20 PM (GMT 0)
Caution on this might produce liver failure,if you take too much. Excess seems to mess with vitamin A in the liver.
Old Mike
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22345346

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 3/20/2012 6:47:47 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/21/2012 12:45 AM (GMT 0)
BabeintheWoods,

Thanks for posting.

That's what I've been saying all along yeah .

Posted 3/21/2012 2:44 AM (GMT 0)
You have rightfully stressed that it is important to eat anti-inflammatory food like grass fed beef to increase the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 fats. And to your credit I do remember that you mentioned that grass fed beef contains CLA.

We all agree that grass fed is better than grain fed, that wild caught is better than farmed fish, and free range chickens are healthier to eat than chicks raised their entire lives in penitentiaries. We all try to eat as healthy as possible and cut down on inflammation.

But I have never heard before this article was published that CLA, conjugated linoleic acid, in of itself may turn out to be part of a cure for IBD.

Post Edited (BabeintheWoods) : 3/21/2012 6:18:33 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/21/2012 4:25 AM (GMT 0)
Way-2-Go InSoFla, BabeintheWoods. Yet another plank in the platform for great health despite a UC diagnosis.
Posted 3/21/2012 7:55 AM (GMT 0)
I havent eaten any meat that was from factory farms in a long time (years) and I still feel like my UC is unstable. I wish I could turn this beast around by eating healthy.
Posted 3/21/2012 12:36 PM (GMT 0)
notsosicklygirl,

There's a difference between non-factory farmed meats vs. grass-fed meats. This difference comes down to what the animals are fed: GRAINS. Animals fed grains (even in non-factory farms) whose meat you consume are HIGHLY inflammatory because of the unnaturally high omega 3 to omega 6 ratio ( 1:20) whereas grass-fed animals whose meat you consume are highly anti-inflammatory due to the naturally occuring correct omega 3:omega 6 ratio, which more closely resembles  1:1. And then there's the added factor that grass-fed meats are loaded with CLA, which is the point BabeintheWoods was talking about.

So NSSG, you'll need to find out what your non-factory animal meats are being fed: grass or grains?

Posted 3/21/2012 12:38 PM (GMT 0)
BabeintheWoods,

Thanks again for posting.

Perhaps this will help those on the fence about the validity of grass-fed animal products.


 

Posted 3/21/2012 1:01 PM (GMT 0)
I have just switched to KerryButtter,butter made from grass fed cows. In my above caution on liver toxicity of CLA that was due to someone supplementing with too much CLA. The increase in IBD in the USA started around 1930 or so,dont know what they were feeding the cows back then,my guess is more grass than corn, but who knows. Might be something else to try and research.
Old Mike
Posted 3/21/2012 9:07 PM (GMT 0)
I only eaat grass fed. Mostly for the fact that I don't want to support factory farms. The fact is that most factory farms feed grain and grass fed are not raised on factory farms because they can't raise them quickly enough to make the types of profits factory farms desire to make. That's what I meant by factory farm, one that feeds grain and fattens up the animals quickly to produce more meat quickly.
Posted 3/21/2012 10:41 PM (GMT 0)
Corn fattening might have started around 1916,but suspect full factory farming 1930's
http://www.kansasruralcenter.org/publications/CCCSchmidtGrassFedBeef.pdf

Old Mike
Posted 3/21/2012 11:46 PM (GMT 0)
I've been reading a lot of papers like this lately (I have to give a presentation on microbiota for a class) and everything I've read seems to confirm this: some bacteria modify fatty acids which have an anti-inflammatory effect. However, I seem to recall this being more effective at maintaining remission than preventing flares in clinical trials.

Worth a try, though the anti-inflammatory properties may not be enough help those with very severe colitis. Hopefully studies like these will help convince insurers to cover prescription probiotics, though.
Posted 3/22/2012 12:30 PM (GMT 0)
Very interesting, thanks for posting this.

We eat grass-fed beef but can't find any other protein like chicken or pork that is grass-fed in local stores (small town).
Meat and protein have always been gut-friendly for me when everything else was rejected so this is a no-brainer for me.
I know studies say that red meat is inflammatory but my gut says otherwise so I stick with personal knowledge.

Is taking a CLA supplement suggested anywhere? I see it is available. What amount would be safe?
Posted 3/22/2012 12:57 PM (GMT 0)
Dr. Mercola has a video that discusses using CLA to maintain a lean body.....also sells it at his website.
Found video when googling "conjugated linoleic acid"

Vitacost also sells Jarrow CLA.
Posted 3/22/2012 2:35 PM (GMT 0)
I've found one opinion/answer to my question about CLA supplements. It is better by far to get CLA from food sources than by supplement. So that's what I'll aim for.


www.marksdailyapple.com/cla-supplements/#axzz1pr8l5PzY
Posted 3/22/2012 3:44 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Imagardener2!

Whole Foods Market has only in recent years begun offering large amounts of grass fed beef. So years ago began eating more lamb and buffalo for my red meat. I assumed they were all grass fed because I could not imagine a buffalo at a feeding trough. But now I hear that lamb, goats, and buffalo may be grain fed. Most buffalo meat is at least grain-finished.
Posted 3/22/2012 4:31 PM (GMT 0)
It is interesting if I search google for grass fed/range fed milk I can find no brands.
Anyone know of a grass fed milk brand. Organic milk seems not to count.
Old Mike
Posted 3/22/2012 5:25 PM (GMT 0)
You should see if there are any farms close by, sometimes you can buy from the source. I don't think there is any other way to know whether the milk is from grass-fed cows but I would assume that it's all grain-fed. I don't drink milk but I look for raw, grass-fed cheeses and I have the most luck finding them at whole foods. When I use half and half in my coffee, I use organic but I bet it's grain-fed regardless. This is a concern for yogurt, I've been buying bellwether farms sheep milk yogurt and I assume their sheep graze but I don't know for sure. I have been on a search for sheep milk for a long time. I would like to make real, fresh ricotta/cannolis (the stuff at the store is all made with cow milk) - I've had absolutely no luck finding it.

http://realmilk.com/where09.html

Posted 3/22/2012 8:38 PM (GMT 0)
Old Mike

Here is a list I found of grass-fed dairy milk. There are probably more small farmers that aren't listed here. I'm in Florida and only one ! is listed for the whole darn state. Maybe look on craigslist for your area.

www.eatwild.com/products/allgrassdairies.html
Posted 3/22/2012 8:50 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks imagardener2, I am not far from the farm in Telford Pa.

It looks like they might only sell raw milk,need to check. I wont drink raw,afraid of pathogens and my gut.


Old Mike

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 3/22/2012 3:01:58 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/23/2012 4:53 PM (GMT 0)
I found grass-fed milk and butter! (edited below after going to the store that said they had it)

I called an organic store in the next town and she assured me they carry both butter and milk from grass fed cows. Organic Valley is the name of the dairy and I went online to make sure (just in case the clerk was mistaken). Yes! It's true.

Edited: No it's not true. Clerk was mistaken. When I went there another clerk went online and found that "Grassmilk" is only available in California, Oregon, Washington (state) and Colorado. However they did have grass-fed buttermilk and "Pasture" butter which I bought. So no grass milk for me yet. Looking up recipes for buttermilk haha

Organic Valley milk (non-grass fed) is carried by several local groceries but the "Grass-fed" is a different milk. But I'm guessing if you find a store that carries Organic Valley products you could request the "grass-fed" products. For me I'm going to buy it from the store I called, milk and butter both. see above edit

Here's a link to the company showing the correct milk.
www.organicvalley.coop/products/milk/grassmilk/
Posted 3/23/2012 5:05 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for sharing your research. But in your case shouldn't you find a grass milk that is also lactose free? Or maybe you can take lactaid pills if they work?

Or maybe if you used that milk to make yogurt the lactose will disappear. I don't know.

Post Edited (BabeintheWoods) : 3/23/2012 11:21:03 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/23/2012 8:01 PM (GMT 0)
How interesting. I buy organic valley often but I've never seen the grassfed type. Now that I have seen the packaging, I will look for it at Whole Foods. I hope I can find some for my coffee.
Posted 3/23/2012 8:35 PM (GMT 0)
Old Mike,

Mike, I've been getting all of my grass-fed animal products from a local farmer who I found on: www.eatwild.com


 

Posted 3/23/2012 8:46 PM (GMT 0)
I found grass fed milk both raw and pasteurized locally,will not use raw.
Thanks
Old Mike
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