Vinegar based coleslaw=fewer bathroom trips

I thought it was the pork but I am thinking that it might actually be the coleslaw.
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=2424558

I have read that vinegar helps the body absorb vitamins and minerals better so its possible that is the case. I would like some more people to test the theory if you wouldnt mind. I bought one head of green and one of purple organic cabbage. I pulled some cabbage off both, chopped it, added red wine vinegar, olive oil, spicy mustard, salt, pepper in a bowl and mixed. I didnt see results until it sat in the fridge for at least a day. Again this is only one experiment but I have been trying to figure this out. I think if more people do it then we can have a better sample size. I ate fingerling potatoes and wild caught frozen salmon with the meal last night.

I have juiced cabbage before with some results but I ended up with a lot of gas and some mild discomfort.

If you think you are up for it post your results.

Thanks.


PS I normally go on a good day every 3 hours, on a bad every 1.5 hours. Since I left my house this morning I have gone only once which is every 6 hours so far.

Ah found your new post.

I have noticed recently that when I eat slow baked/roasted pork it slows me down a little. That is slightly longer gaps between BMs.

Old mike,

read about Aryl hydrocarbon receptor, it is activated by 3-indole carbinol which is in cruciferous vegges like cabbage. This could be more of the beneifit from cabbage than vitamin U. So eat your cabbage everyday!

thanks guys I really think this is a great path to venture down as I have seen results first hand by eating cabbage. I wonder why juicing didn't help like eating it whole? I have a masticating juicer so it should be the same but I guess you cannot substitute for the real thing. I am going to continue to eat cabbage as cole slaw and see what happens.

I have also tried jucing cabage in the past did not seem to help much,I have been eating fresh fermented cabbage for 3 weeks or so to get the probiotic bacteria,I guess will also increase raw cabbage if I can stand the gas.
Things seem to have settled down somewhat with the gas from the bacteria,or it depends on how much
food I eat for them to make gas with.

The immune modulation with cabbage is of great interest,especially the part

about microbial load.
Old Mike

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 7/3/2012 9:46:50 AM (GMT-6)

I sort of instinctively gravitated to vinegar-based dressings as I always seem to "feel" better eating them than with creamy based ones - plus there are fewer calories!

I just started fermenting a batch of red cabbage for the probiotic benefits since I had a head ready for picking in the garden. Next week at farmer's market, I will buy some organic cabbage heads to make the coleslaw. Luckily, cabbage does not give me gas! I also add fresh cabbage to my salads as well along with fresh spinach.

I have to go to the bathroom almost right away if I eat raw cabbage (at least right now). I am eating authentically made sauerkraut several times a week...one day I'll learn how to make it myself, I hope).

But what I actually wanted to add was that I understood that vinegar helps to slow down carbohydrate absorption, thereby lowering the glycemic load of a meal.

Apple cider vinegar is supposedly uber healthy. Another thing about vinegar that everyone might not be aware of is that some vinegar is made from gluten containing grain and may be problematic if you have a gluten problem.

cabbage! sauerkraut!

well after reading some studies about I3C I am going to stop taking the supplement. I should have done further research before buying.

Perhaps I was wrong that the vinegar does nothing.

Old Mike

http://saturn.med.nyu.edu/research/mp/littmanlab/Immunology_Journal_Club/Papers_files/***uda.pdf

Try this they were feeding a starch acetate.

http://saturn.med.nyu.edu/research/mp/littmanlab/Immunology_Journal_Club/Papers_files/***uda.pdf

Now I see why it wont work the full name is ***uda, the website is censoring the *** part.

Try again. F U K uda.

Search this on google.

Bifidobacteria can protect from enteropathogenic infection through production of acetate

Too funny.

Old Mike

 

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 7/29/2012 3:11:36 PM (GMT-6)

ordered some DIM should be here tomorrow.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19334074

just to recap, stopped I3C because I was afraid of the conflicting data suggesting it increases your chances for cancer. Tried DIM with no changes as well as MSM. I did start taking L-Methylmethionine and have noticed a positive change however it still doesnt have that same effect that cabbage has. L-Methylmethionine needs to be converted to SAMe, then to S-Methylmethionine so I am going to try and find a supplement with S-Methylmethionine in it. Looking all over the web there appears to be only one and its called Stomacin-U made by Dr.Ohhira. I am going to finish the L-Methionine then when the stomacin arrives I will start that, will update in a few weeks.