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Posted 10/28/2012 11:42 PM (GMT 0)
I am just curious how many of you have tried testing pH of urine and/or saliva. I was just wandering around the web and came across some post where the author was suggesting that inflammation is directly connected to acidity of urine or saliva. Acidic urine or saliva is a result of acid forming food that we eat, which promotes inflammation. There was no reference to the claim but got me thinking.

Any idea?
Posted 10/29/2012 2:29 AM (GMT 0)
It could be, but there's nothing you can do to change your PH levels, it's a closely guarded function of your body. I don't think the science is advanced in this area enough to 'treat' it.
Posted 10/29/2012 12:44 PM (GMT 0)
Actually, I used to, but more for kidney stones. I have to take 1000mg of citric acid daily to keep the kidney stones from forming. If I check my urine pH before I take the meds it is very basic, after very acidic. I agree the pH is closely guarded by your body, but it can be altered a bit by what you eat (or meds you take).
Posted 10/29/2012 2:25 PM (GMT 0)
@lemonhead,
Any idea why you have a tendency of kidney stones? Do you have citric acid tablets? In your case, your urine is acidic because the body is excreting excess of citric acid but otherwise it should be neutral or basic. The article was basically stressing that we should be eating alkalinising food.
Posted 10/29/2012 3:12 PM (GMT 0)
I was told the kidney stones are a result of the UC. Something about the colon excreting calcium and when the colon is not functioning properly the calcium gets deposited back in the kidneys. I don't really get it, but bottom line....it is a side effect of the UC. The pills I take are prescription. 1080mg of potassium/citric acid. Seems to be doing the trick. Haven't had a stone in years. the acid is suppose to keep the urine acidic so that stones won't form.
Posted 10/29/2012 4:51 PM (GMT 0)
This is true that UC increases Calcium excretion and oxalates excreted get into vicious cycle of resorption and excretion. In that process, you end up getting a kidney stone. I also had a kidney stone and it was removed last year. The urologist's office is so lousy that they misplaced the file and hence he never got back to me with what I should be doing to prevent it. At that time, I was on Topamax too for my migraine so I am not too sure if it was Topamax or UC that caused the kidney stone.

I believe the one you are taking is generic form right? How many kidney stones have you had in the past and have you made any difference in your diet? (I have not). May be I should consider this too. can you give me little more details on this aspect, like how many times do you take this one?

There is Mg-citrate in your signature. May I know why you were taking it? (I am taking it for my migraine, giving a try to see if that really helps).
Posted 10/29/2012 5:30 PM (GMT 0)
I take the generic form. I have had 3 stones...usually spread 2-3 years apart. they get too big to pass. One was 8mm, and the other 2 were both in the 9mm range. I had emergency surgery to remove one (worst pain in my life), and the others were lithotripsied. That wasn't too much fun either. I take the potassium/citrate pill once a day in the morning with my regular meds. No big deal. Since I have started on it 3-4 years ago, I have not had an issue and I get a KUB x-ray done every year just to make sure none are forming. If we do see one, we keep an eye on it until it is big enough to litho. My urologist is recommended by my GI and they work closely together. I got lucky that way.

I take the Mg-citrate because I read a book called the Magnesium miracle with lots of great benefits of Mg, and the citrate version is better absorbed than any other kind, so I take it. Seems to help with my leg cramps but haven't noticed any improvement with my UC.
Hope this helps.
Posted 10/29/2012 5:33 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry deltaforce, but trying to connect UC with the pH of one's saliva or urine makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I have been coming across these sorts of pseudoscientific ideas for years, where people try to associate pH in one way or another with UC (the pH of the foods we eat, and by extension the pH of our stomach, intestines, blood, etc). It makes no sense and seems like the kind of idea we'd get from a snake oil salesperson trying to take advantage of the desperate and uninformed people.
Posted 10/29/2012 7:48 PM (GMT 0)
@lemonhead,
Mine were in the range of 4 to 6mm. One was right in the tube and another was in the kidney. I agree, worst pain ever. First time I went to ER, the guy gave some med to 'open up' the tube and the stone will pass. Forgot the name now. Nothing happened. 4 months on, same pain again. This time they removed by surgery and the one in the kidney was removed by lithotripsy. I will talk to my PCP about it.

@Robert,
As I said in OP, there was no reference so I found it weird too but it is not completely snake oil. UC does change pHs of our intestines to certain extent and that is the reason why we are prone to kidney stones (read above discussion). I knew it and my urologist confirmed it. How much that stuff is connected to UC itself i.e. acidic or alkaline food, is lot different discussion. More research is needed there.
Posted 10/29/2012 8:00 PM (GMT 0)
Good luck
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