Hypochlorhydra > Maldigestion > Auto Immune

I've been trying to put the peices of the puzzle together for the past few nights.

When I was about 13-14 years old, I was hit with reoccurring acid reflux. At that age, I was a complete fool, and only ate what I wanted to. My mom found Prilosec (a proton pump inhibitor) which solved my problems completely. I was never hit with acid reflux EVER again.

When I was 18, I had a lot of teen-age emotions I feel I can attribute to IBS (lots of diarrhea/stool), no blood at this age. When I started smoking to dull emotional pain, all symptoms went away. Flash forward to 2011 when I stopped smoking. I started noticing symptoms of UC, then following diagnosis.

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Conclusion:

Prilosec (proton pump inhibitor) can cause less gastric acid production. Say hydrochloric acid for example. This acid is used to digest proteins, and if not functioning properly can lead to Hypochlorhydra.drweyrich.weyrich.com/disorders/hypochlorhydria.html

I've had all of those symptoms since I was in my late teens.
Once this happens, it apparently can lead to auto-immune diseases and other issues.

My metametrix lab test showed yeast/parasite and h.pylori and very low Elastase 1 (which is an important pancreatic enzyme that breaks down protein). www.homeopathicdoctor.ca/GSDL/one_pager/Gastro/td_pe1.pdf

!!!! Could this be MY problem I wonder?!
Please question, correct me where I am wrong, and discuss! Thanks

Post Edited (stereofidelic89) : 2/2/2013 7:32:03 AM (GMT-7)

Thanks InSoFla. I've heard of those and might make some use out of them. I've read about adverse effects of Prilosec: "Antacid preparations (such as omeprazole), by suppressing acid-mediated breakdown of proteins, lead to an elevated risk of developing food and drug allergies. This happens due to undigested proteins then passing into the gastrointestinal tract where sensitisation occurs. It is unclear whether this risk occurs with only long-term use or with short-term use as well."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21121928
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1398-9995.2010.02511.x/full

I keep thinking this may or may not have happened to me, at a young age, and as a result I started out with IBS symptoms a few years ago, and now have yeast overgrowth/parasite (due to unfavorable environment in my stomach from the decrease of HCL acid) and now so my gut could be signaling all of these invaders, along with some fermentation of my food in the gut, leading to stomach distention and bloating/gas. =/

As for my current state, crohns-colitis, I would be lying if I said I actually tried to find out what was going on inside of me a few years ago. :(

Sieve info is very interesting, the part about the mouth bacteria getting to the intestine,
for sure might cause a problem. Another thought I just had is that your stomach acid increases when you eat,but what is going on the rest of the time.  You always swallow mouth bacteria,so if the resting pH of the stomach is high,where does that leave us.

http://chemistry.about.com/od/lecturenoteslab1/a/Stomach-Ph.htm

Start reading page 66 these links are huge.

http://books.google.com/books?id=oQo8VLRcT_4C&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=resting+stomach+ph&source=bl&ots=m9IQ8N35bC&sig=ebo7reIoRV8K0oBHaklD8n_4Hgk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=d1wNUePnM-KV0QGur4GwAg&ved=0CEQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=resting%20stomach%20ph&f=false
Old Mike

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 2/2/2013 11:48:47 AM (GMT-7)

Bettylou, I read the sieve article, very interesting. Your idea of pH in the stomach makes sense. Having the right pH environment in our system is crucial for keeping a balance I think. But wouldn't our stomachs be less acidic to allow these pathogenic bacteria cause trouble in our system?

Old Mike, pg 66 has some good info. What is the pH scale they are using?

I'm seeing how the mouth acts as a filter for bacteria that may or may not proliferate based on the stomach's ability to provide an acidic environment when necessary.

"The major effects by colonization of pathogens are, of course, those of enteric disease and food poisoning. When the colonization is by nonpathogens, the effects are the result of metabolic activity of the microflora and include fat malabsorption, vitamin B12 defficiency, etc,."

The PPIs I was referring to are Protein Pump Inhibitors, the prilosec from back in the beginning. It could have set up a great environment for the H Pylori to take hold, causing paralysis of your pyloric sphicter and then the whole system gets out of whack..

OR the H Pylori and reflux could have been a symptom of something bigger and arent your primary. Either way you have to take care of the h pylori and get your pyloric sphincter working again before any of the bacteria find their forever home and stop wandering about your intestine like the yakuza gang.

I was dxed IBS at 7, ibs -d, ibs-c, endo, fibromyalgia, hashimotos, Chron's with colitis.. appendectomy 4 laproscopic surgeries trying to figure it all out.. never got any relief.

I went into a flare after my last pregnancy that sent me into a tailspin after the pred, flagyl and clindamycin they gave me.. that gave me an absess and there is debate of the fistula portion of things.

I was sicker then I had ever been.. tapered off the pred said Ef you to the rest of the options as we had been down lots of those roads before.

started eating SCD, Paleo, had to move to Low FODMAPs and did an intestinal cleansing protocol that consisted of enemas and colonics to wash away all the infection. I also started taking Mg07 (oxypowder). My colon always showed up on films as having my tranverse colon severely prolapsed, that backed up everything in my ascending colon and wedged open my illeocecal valve, so liquidy material was passing through, around the blockages and sometimes Id lay down or whatever allowing that fluid to slosh back through. I could feel the sloshing in my stomach after Id drank alot of cold water especially on an empty stomach.

Since my intestines were sooo prolapsed my illeocecal valve has proabably been being misdxed as my ovary all this time. Ive had two laps and one oopextomy because of going to the er in pain from there. oh, and an appendectomy at 11 when they opened me up and found my colon was full of stool. There was no infection they said but they went ahead and took my uninfected appendix to make sure. Aholes.

Anyway, I did a series of colonics that actually got my colon clear except for pockets all the way to my cecum and an applied Kinesologist was able to work with me on massaging it and supplementing my diet to help it.. I guess all those spincters of the stomach are really dependent on the right balance of calcium, mag, potassium and D.. we added in CALM and it helped give me extra calcium, mag and keep my stool soft. So, yes.. very helpful for me, definitely a turning point moment.

I find that when my illeocecal valve isnt working the opposite way (meaning it is inflamed and stuck closed) I also have the same problem with valves of houston at the other end of my large intestine.


I would have said yes to remission (8ish months- maybe up to 12 but the first few months of healing it was hard to know what was going on) until this last few weeks. when Ive had this weird bout of proctitis. No other symptoms. it has resolved in the last 4 days of natural treatment. I dont know if something was acting up somewhere upstream, the area of my ICV has been hurting, but im ovulating again normally (for the first time in my life, by the way) so I just chalked it up to that.

My whole family got the flu and I didnt.. which was SO WEIRD. I get everything. But I was on a parasite cleansing formula and thought maybe it was a fluke. A few weeks ago I got proctitis that just lasted. it caused things to back up and not feel very happy.. but still, only 3-4 loose (not d exactly) stools, no blood.. increased mucus... now Im significantly better but my guts are sore. Like before when Im healing from ulcerations, absesses.. etc.. I did allow some more unrefined sugars back into my diet and had wine, 1 glass 2 weeks in a row.

So, I dont know. I would have sworn I was in remission other then battling the aftermath of lingering SIBO and getting my intestines back in shape... maybe my system just reacts super weird now when I do get something like a flu. Ive never actually had a stomach flu in my life. Its peculiar with all the stomach problems I have. No sickness has ever made me throw up.. occasionally maybe it made me go to the bathroom more, but who knew? I went so much it would have been hard to tell.


So, I digressed alot.. but Good luck to you!

killcolitis, have you thought about genetian bitters its more gentle, encouraging the body to do it on its own

http://www.amazon.com/Doctors-Best-Betaine-Gentian-Capsules/dp/B000POWRX4 I like those but I know you dont want to do the Hcl.. so, Ive heard from herbalists about gentian on its own..

I give my girls http://www.vitacost.com/natures-plus-animal-parade-tummy-zyme-childrens-chewable-digestive-aid but we arent dealing with h. pylori. i do think they both have low stomach acid issues.

you can buy drops of it and put it in an 00 cap yourself.

It is absolutely disgusting.. couldnt imagine a tea of it.

Stereo,

Yes, and don't forget consequences of b12 deficiency as well.

And Leaky Gut Syndrome as well.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Why-Stomach-Acid-Good-You/dp/0871319314

Stereo, the MD who wrote it has a clinic in Seattle I think. I don't think he practices still but it's a very clear book with a lot of information and it makes good sense. There's a test for stomach acid which he talks about in the book which your naturopath might want to do or you can experiment with supplementation if you want. It's worth a read IMHO.

bitters like gentian have been used for centuries to help digestion (that's why people drink vermouth before meals for example). our herbalist is big on it but it is absolutely disgusting. I'm going to buy the drops as per PK's suggestion as I do think it's a more "natural" way to kick start digestion than supplementing with HCL (though you could try that too).