iNOS Colitis Oleic Acid/Olive Oil Experiment-Need People

Freddy. Extra virgin olive oil is very easy to identify by taste. I would know it if it was not olive oil.But to your point there is some that had been brought out by the media as not being good and filled with industrial grapeseed oil I believe. You have to find a reputable brand and source and stick with it. As far as consuming an oil I stick with EVOO as it has been around since the beginning of time.

Steve

Post Edited (twiggs) : 2/15/2013 11:58:51 AM (GMT-7)

freddy, I'm pretty sure the way it's manufactured is much more scrutinized by the FDA than what you think and I watched "the shopping bags" a few yrs ago about the differences between olive oils where they explained how to read the labels to make sure you're getting pure olive oil....

For example, on the side of mine it's imported from Italy and states it's imported by Aldo Petrelli, Vancouver, Canada.

EV stands for Extra Virgin, it's the least processed for of olive oil (which is the only form I use) but it's meant t0 be eaten raw, not cooked, that's what regular or light olive oil is meant for (cooking) but regardless any form of it are healthy.

Its easily found by searching 'npr olive oil story'... Give it a read. Sorry cant link it here on my phone.

Just reading through this, Im swallowing mine with no burning... Its entirely possible your oil is turning rancid if it burns. It doesnt take much, either crap to begin with or a few months with too much warmth/heat or light exposure. Olive oil doesnt have an indefinite shelf life.

Pathogen: Interesting. What I am starting to believe is that many so called autoimmune diseases, and
even some forms of kidney disease are all related to what is going on in the colon, with bacteria.
Millions and millions have some form of kidney disease,yet they cannot do that much to stop progression.

Might as well add this on linoleic acid,its a killer.  Veggie oils,except possibly olive,coconut not good for anyone.

http://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8707

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1741152/pdf/v075p00129.pdf
Old Mike

Post Edited (Old Mike) : 2/16/2013 8:15:02 AM (GMT-7)

Old Milke, Have you ever seen
http://bacteriality.com/about-the-mp/

Of course it applies. The shift in feeding livestock of all sorts, even farmed salmon soy and corn has led to a MAJOR shift in the omega fatty acid ratios- from higher 3's to 6's- no doubt about it. It is something I harp on all the time. Grass fed/ free range is, in that sense, even more important than organic, but both is best.

This all relates to too many people on the planet. Too many people= more mega factory farming/less wild game and less "old school" slow, real methods of producing food (Just letting that cow eat grass is just too slow and inefficient, so stuff it with china-grown, round-up ready ge soy and corn). A big thanks to the over breeders. Keep it up catholics.

sean: I have seen that or perhaps have it posted somewhere.
Heres the tuff part, to correct the problem,our immunity and gut bacteria are all changed
due to the wrong fats in the diet. Eating olive oil might help but trying to fix the gut bacteria,with
a very damaged immune system just makes things more difficult. Not only is the immune system more inflammatory,but it is less efficient at killing pathogens.
I am bummed at how difficult this might be to correct.

Old Mike

Here Old Mike:

Emerging evidence has also identified dietary lipid intake as an important factor contributing to the etiology of IBD [120,121,122,123,124,125]. At least one study, in a Danish population, found that excessive consumption of omega-6 PUFA increases ulcerative colitis risk by 30%; whereas consumption of docosahexaenoic acid, an omega-3 PUFA, reduced the disease burden by 77% [122]. Indeed, fish oil tablets are promoted as a “cure” for diseases like IBD [124] but their effects on GI health are conflicting with some studies showing a beneficial result [120,122,123] and other studies revealing they actually exacerbate colitis [126,127]. While it is conceivable that excessive omega-6 PUFA consumption is linked to increased IBD risk, the assumption made is that dietary fatty acids directly alter the host’s intestinal immune responses. While this is likely, it is also plausible that such an effect, at least in part, is due to shifts in the ecology of the gut microbiota. Both the microbiota and the intestinal mucosa are exposed to dietary antigens, suggesting the possibility that IBD susceptibility could be influenced by diet through the type of microbes that are influenced by nutritional factors. Along this line of thinking, we have shown that a microbiota enriched with Bacteroidetes promotes host intestinal immune and redox responses that protect mice from lethal infectious colitis [6]. This demonstrates that the microbiota is driving host responses and alters disease susceptibility. However, little is known about the effects of nutrition on inducing specific microbial populations that are either protective and prevent IBD, or conversely, are damaging and cause IBD. This is an important area of research since understanding how dietary choices modify the ecology of the intestinal microbiota could affect an individual’s susceptibility to IBD, as well as directing further development and clinical usage of specific probiotic treatments. However, thus far clinical trials with probiotics have produced variable results against IBD [128], potentially since it is not known if they colonize the intestine long-term. Thus, identifying methods that promote and maintain beneficial microbes which are already present in the intestine to help balance the immune system and maintain GI health is a potential preventative measure or treatment against IBD.

Source: Proboitics thread post on here today - Article: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3448089/

FWIW I tried the EVOO therapy for about a week. Had three good days followed by 3 bad and then gave up. Might have bailed too soon. Decided to use the OO as a bigger part of my diet and leave it at that for now.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130205102116.htm

Have you tried taking olive leaf extract? 6-8 a day standardized to 20%. If you are looking for a new experiment. Ive currently streamlined everything Im doing and that is one of the things that I think is yeilding me the highest results. I have a friend who just started the olive leaf and sugar (not carb) free this week. She is dealing with wicked die off right now, so its hard to say how it will shake out, but she says in some ways she feels alot better (joint pain)

From what I understand, that is herx. But obviously listen to your body..I dont process oils well so 4 tbsp of evoo would wreck me. I was just curious if you tried another olive angle.

I did all the tests for the docs, got all the blood drawn.. collected my poop for 3 days.. now Im hitting all of this hard with the natural stuff while I wait on the test results.