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Posted 4/30/2013 12:20 AM (GMT 0)
I don't see much discussion here of the Lp299v strain of Lactobacillus planturum and colitis. Wondering if people have had any experience with it or knowledge about it?

I found this pdf, which cites a few abstracts of studies on Lp299v and colitis:

http://www.goodbelly.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/lp299vresearchtrialabstracts.pdf

Any more thoughts on this?
Posted 4/30/2013 12:28 AM (GMT 0)
I'm too stupid to understand that. Anything beyond kindergarden level of explanation is lost on me.

Did you see all the big words in there? It sounds like a nerds convention and they regurgitated their findings and put it in a document.

I got to the second sentence and I was starting to faint and be light headed.

All I need to know is which pill to take and where to get it.
Posted 4/30/2013 12:35 AM (GMT 0)
Unfortunately, I find that there is so much misinformation, partial information, and extremely subjective accounts of the effects of various different treatments (including probiotics) that if you don't get into the nitty gritty of the studies it's easy to be taking something that has no demonstrable effect or may even have a negative effect.

I also think that a lot of the time, when people start taking something and only a couple days or weeks later attest to how great it is, they are really just experiencing a placebo effect. Or when they declare something worthless after little time, they have not really given it a chance. I'm more interested in how people are doing after months and years.

It does seem like there is a lot of discussion elsewhere of Lp299v and IBS. And, like Culturelle's Lactobacillus GG, it is also supposed to alter the secretion of cytokines that influence the inflammatory response. So it's curious to me that I don't see much mention of Lp299v with colitis.

Post Edited (gg555) : 4/29/2013 6:42:27 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/30/2013 1:20 AM (GMT 0)
I took it for almost a year.. stopped cause I was sick of taking so many different things. I didnt notice a different either way but at that point my gut was so leaky its unlikely anything stayed where it was supposed to. Ive been looking at it again but stay on the strains my doc likes at the moment and trying to be a good patient ;)
Posted 5/1/2013 8:27 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the reply. I hear you about getting tired of taking a lot of different things.

I guess if you're taking VSL3 it would be hard to tell if Lp299v is doing anything more. In fact, I can't remember where I saw this, but I think the version of Lactobacillus plantarum in VSL3 might be Lp299v. It might be worth emailing them and asking. No point in taking the same thing twice.
Posted 5/1/2013 12:27 PM (GMT 0)
Somedude,

You gave me a chuckle.

You are too funny... :-)

How are you doing?

Posted 5/1/2013 2:39 PM (GMT 0)
Are you sure, its a strain in Culturelle?
Posted 5/2/2013 6:09 PM (GMT 0)
I would have thought that the plantarum in VSL#3 is Lp299v?

I first took plantarum a few years back in a probiotic available in the UK called Tumbiotix which is just acidophilus and plantarum (pretty sure Lp299v strain). I think it did help me and it helped a friend I told about it. It was not enough though recently when I got an infection on top of UC.
Posted 5/12/2013 12:08 AM (GMT 0)

deltaforce said...
Are you sure, its a strain in Culturelle?


Are you referring to Lp299v? As I explain above Culturelle has a strain of Lactobacillus called "GG," it's different from Lp299v. Both have been studied in relation to IBD and colitis, though, and are supposed to have similar qualities. But it's hard to tell if one or the other is better.

What was striking to me is that I see a lot of dicussion of Culturelle, but very little of people trying Lp299v. Maybe it's just because Culturelle is more widely available. Although Jarrow's "Ideal Bowel Support," which is just Lp299v, is not hard to find.
Posted 5/12/2013 12:20 AM (GMT 0)
Irony to see this post today. I BANNED this from my kitchen this morning.

"GoodBelly’s delicious organic drinks deliver a powerful daily dose of live and active probiotic cultures of Lactobacillus plantarum299v, a well-studied probiotic strain formulated for daily digestive health."

Coconut water Good Belly drink is killing me. Removed it from my diet and starting to recover.

It was like an allergic reaction for the colon, rinse rinse rinse mode until the wash became all blood. Realized things were going too fast for RS diet to 'ferment' down there. Other supplements going out in the wash too.

I set myself up for this with a fateful mistake. No meds then I got off the RS diet for 10 days, started eating ice cream at the end of bike rides with my daughter, now back on the navy beans and trying to slow the transit time so they work like they were before I made the mistake thinking GP's advice to eat dark meat chicken for iron was sufficient. It is not, should have kept serving navy beans with the chicken.

VSL#3DS is my friend - Lactobacillus plantarum299v is the devil to me.
Posted 1/10/2014 8:44 AM (GMT 0)
I think it's worth keeping in mind that there are other things in Good Belly drinks than just the Lp299v, so I don't think there's anyway you can meaningful conclude that it was this probiotic causing the problem.

There's all kinds of juice concentrates (and therefore sugar), oat flour, rice starch, malt. Any of those things could cause your problems.

People need to be more scientific about what effects their system. If you want to see in Lp299v helps, get the capsules from Jarrow and try it by itself. Otherwise, it's just jumping to unfounded conclusions (and possibily wrongly eliminating something that could be helpful).
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