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Posted 7/20/2013 12:57 AM (GMT 0)
super dooper dennis ! so how bout a little history lesson so we can put this in perspective =

when were you dx'd ?
what meds have you tried ?
what other things beside drugs and o of o have you tried ?
what are your current symptoms ?

thanks in advance :-)
Posted 7/20/2013 1:16 AM (GMT 0)
Hmm maybe i should try this, atleast for my recurrent sinus/throat infections...
Posted 7/20/2013 3:50 AM (GMT 0)
Soystud, super, I am not ;-) . Chasing this a long time, yes.
Hope my new profile pops in.
Started sulfer drug 80's, asacol 90's Azasan 2000 aprox. Predizone mixed during the sulfer & asacol decades. Azasan & S.C.D. allowed me to slowly nail down the foods that worked, didn't know bout this site than. Lordy that would have helped, you and many of these people are spot on with foods, vits. . the newbees need you bad...
S.C.D. w/elaine Gottshell set me in right direction. This diet allowed me to realize foods could control the colitis if... a med wasnt hidding simptoms. I was able to listen to my body and ajust.
Next tool I found was echart toole, sounds nutty. His CD set played every morn while preparing for work changed my head for many months & I never really went back to the Neg. thoughts.
A great wife that cooks healthy food, lunch, diner... no fast food garbage.
Moving forward to now, zero meds, my symptoms are zero blood & formed stools, urgency when I am being stupid, occasional gluten, fried chit, birthday cake. Its scary this oregano oil has given me option to cheat now & than. This was never a option while off med.
One other thought, I think my symptoms were slowly getting better since I made these life changes. The oregano oil may have been the topping that put me to another level.
But, time tells the story. As vets know this colitis can be sneaky...
Posted 7/20/2013 4:43 AM (GMT 0)
cool - thanks for the update and info 25 -

meds hiding symptoms and listening are both awesome points -

keep on postin and hangin around -
Posted 7/20/2013 8:26 AM (GMT 0)
If you google about the topic, you will notice that bad mouth hygiene is in many cases causing problem in the gut. By keeping oregano oil in the mouth, you might eliminate bad pathogens there, such that are not washed away with a normal teeth-brushing.

We all have really many bacteria in the mouth. Most of them are just probiotic, but some might be really nasty.

I wish someone would put up a poll like this somewhere to really verify:

¤ My mouth is smelling and I have UC/Crohns/IBS
¤ My mouth is smelling and I have good guts
¤ My mouth is not smelly

There is a lot of nonsense about how oil pulling is taking out toxins from the whole body. It is working, but it is not because it would "pull" out the toxins, it is working because those oils are killing pathogens and really many problems comes from pathogens in the mouth. Often it is not the bacteria itself that is dangerous, it is the products they produce that are dangerous. From the mouth it is spreading easily to the rest of the body.

Some reports I have read, shows that oil "pulling" with a few drips of oregano oil into the oil makes it extra efficient.

Post Edited (engblom) : 7/20/2013 2:30:45 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/20/2013 10:25 AM (GMT 0)
i've read oregano as spice is not good for colitis, so why should oregano oil be a miracle, i just wonder
Posted 7/20/2013 10:30 AM (GMT 0)
i've read oregano as spice is not good for colitis, so why should oregano oil be a miracle, i just wonder
Posted 7/20/2013 10:40 AM (GMT 0)
sorry i wanted to write something else and clicked the previous post twice. As for "miracle cures" which i'm personally sceptical about, I've recently heard on the Polish forum (from someone who has uc and c.diff) that the Polish simple and very cheap probiotic which is called Enterol is excellent in fighting c.diff. I haven't tried it myself because i don't have c.diff, but i know that enterol is the most common probiotic administered to IBD patients in Polish hospitals, so it is safe. The girl i was talking with said that enterol reduced the number of her BM immediately after one day of taking it.
Posted 7/20/2013 10:43 AM (GMT 0)
engblow, you/they could be right. Have not heard I have smelly mouth but, a dentist mentioned to me his theory proper/good bacteria starts in the mouth.
I have periodontal challenges, for many years have use "Perio Wash or similar health store product.

Maybe notice add on s to my profile about zero fluoride, I think the good bacteria does not need to be attacked :-)
Lordy, how can I enlarge my profile space?
Not enough room for all my tactics and trials.
Posted 7/20/2013 12:45 PM (GMT 0)
I've also read that bacteria transfers from the mouth to the gut, it's pretty believable!

Good to know you found some relief through Oregano oil 25years. Looking forward to hear what others have to say about it.

I was taking ADP (oregano supplement) for about 6-8 months last year, it seemed to help control symptoms along with Phytostan (garlic supplement).
Posted 8/2/2013 1:49 AM (GMT 0)
I am still going strong up to 166 lbs, unreal for me.Think I am absorbing food properly for the first time in decades.
It has to be the oregano oil that set my system right.

Dennis

Post Edited (25yearsw/colitis) : 8/28/2013 6:58:06 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/2/2013 2:57 AM (GMT 0)
25years, you're only allowed 10 lines (spaces included) for signatures at the bottom of your profile, so if you make it bigger then you may be asked to lessen it anyway lol.
Posted 8/2/2013 6:24 AM (GMT 0)
I'm happy to hear you found something to seems to have so wholly cured you. I might try this very soon, myself. I know a lot of people are skeptics about these things, and many people find that the same treatment doesn't work for them. I believe that comes from the nature of the disease - which can develop for so many various reasons, and simply appear symptomatically similar to everyone. Perhaps 25years' UC was due to some malevolent pathogen or bacteria that had been residing in his gut, and the oregano oil stamped it out. Either way, I think it's worth a shot and I'm always glad to try something to 1) make me healthy and 2) keep me off pred and never on Remicade.
Posted 8/2/2013 12:42 PM (GMT 0)
What product are you using ?

Article said...

Oil of oregano also contains a good amount of the vitamin E complex, as well as calcium, magnesium, zinc, iron, potassium, copper, boron, manganese, vitamins A and C, and niacin.

Recent research shows oil of oregano beneficial to the colon and liver

A study reported in the journal Experimental and Toxicologic Pathology investigated the treatment efficacy of intra-rectal and intra-peritoneal application of oregano oil on induced colitis in rats using a morphological damage score. They found a significant difference in terms of ulceration, mucus cell depletion, inflammatory cell infiltration, vascular dilatation, crypt abcesses, and edema between the group given oregano oil compared to the control group.

A study reported in the journal Mediators of Inflammation examined the anti-inflammatory effects of the combination of thyme and oregano oil administered at three concentrations on mice with induced colitis. They found that the treatment decreased the levels of pro-inflammatory cytokines IL-1beta, IL-6, GM-CSF, and TNF-alpha, especially after the application of the medium dose of 0.2% thyme and 0.1% oregano oil. The medium dose also significantly lowered the amount of the IL-1beta and IL-6 proteins. Administration of the medium dose decreased the mortality rate, accelerated the body weight gain recovery, and reduced the macroscopic damage of the colonic tissue.

www.naturalnews.com/024685_oregano_oil_of.html

They make a cheap enteric coated softgel here :

www.soap.com/p/now-foods-oregano-oil-enteric-coated-softgels-47744?site=CA&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc_S&utm_term=ANO-727&utm_campaign=GoogleAW&CAWELAid=1323231160&utm_content=pla&adtype=pla&cagpspn=pla

Post Edited (aguywithuc) : 8/2/2013 7:10:30 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/3/2013 1:35 PM (GMT 0)
Darn, this oregano oil makes poo smell like burnt rubber on asphalt.
Posted 8/3/2013 2:40 PM (GMT 0)
I took the oral liquid in the morning then picked up the enteric coated NOW product.

No magic yet, need to cutout 2 other new things and see over the weekend.
Posted 8/3/2013 3:07 PM (GMT 0)
How many drops do you take per day?
Posted 8/3/2013 3:20 PM (GMT 0)

I always took four drops, used "wild mediterranean oregano oil" A-market brand.
I added the holding in my mouth for 5 mins. on my own.
Took it every morn after breakfast for at least 2 months.

Had forgotten I had to start w/ less drops to keep from gagging and to make sure it wasnt shocking my system

to quickly.

Post Edited (25yearsw/colitis) : 8/3/2013 9:32:58 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/3/2013 4:13 PM (GMT 0)
The supplement industry is mostly hot air. Posts like this keep things flying off the shelves... Didnt do anything for me, personally, but I didnt take it for long.
Posted 8/3/2013 5:45 PM (GMT 0)
"Darn, this oregano oil makes poo smell like burnt rubber on asphalt."


sweet !
Posted 8/3/2013 6:04 PM (GMT 0)

freddyj said...
The supplement industry is mostly hot air. Posts like this keep things flying off the shelves... Didnt do anything for me, personally, but I didnt take it for long.

Agreed my pantry is a memorial to hundreds that have not worked. For 10 bucks I will try anything because a drowning man will grab even a hot poker.

But then I am not drowning at present.

The only things that really ever worked for me are protein, p-seed powder and RS Navy beans.

Because this is day 4 of zero prednisone and because oregano oil will ZAP both good and bad bacteria I should not mess with success. This is probably better for when I am doing bad. Messing with success has bit me in the past - must remember to quit while ahead.

Putting weight on, solid bm's & feeling great is as good as its going to get.
Posted 8/31/2013 8:17 AM (GMT 0)
I want to try this Oregano Oil as a natural anti-biotic.  What is the recommended dose?  Can I still use Pro Biotics?

Of all the things I have tried, it was only the hardcore Anti Biotics used to treat my H Pylori infection that truely stopped my UC symptoms dead.  After the anti biotics finished the symtoms came back.

I have cut dairy. No effect

I have cut Gluten. No effect

I have cut Caffeine. No effect

I have cut processed foods and sugars (cakes and biscuits etc..). No effect

I take daily 30 billion Probiotics. Helps overall health but no effect on my UC.

I believe I have a bad bacteria based UC that is too much for the Pro Biotics to take over, and for the dietry changes to starve out.  I would like to seriously follow the SCD diet, but this is hard for me to follow with my wife's cooking and family and friends that do not understand my condition (they see me as a fussy eater now!).

So, can Oregano Oil successfully and naturally kill off the bad bacteria?  Is this a long term supplement? Will the bad bacteria come back if you stop taking it?

 

Posted 8/31/2013 12:07 PM (GMT 0)
Penang, go to my opening/starting post.
I took 4 drops as directed, but personally added the hold in mouth thing.
As far as I know a health store would say yes to continuing the pro biotics.
Not sure if it's a long term item, but try it from sure...

When you make your "cuts" give it time & stay with it for a while.
Healing take a longer time than most drugs.

Are you on med now? what is the Mezavant XL ?

Not sure about others people but some of the pro biotics did not sit well w/ me.

Maybe some other item in your diet thats not friendly ?
carb beverages, alcohol, flouride water/tooth paste, back door gluten (used in soups...), mercury fillings, sorry just rambling on.

Important thought... some people have a tendency to attack the UC i.e. change to much at once. Probably ok to cut a lot of foods at once but, add everything... very slowly changes can take weeks to effect.
Listen to your body....

People that care about you will learn to understand your UC.

Post Edited (25yearsw/colitis) : 8/31/2013 6:15:41 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/31/2013 1:07 PM (GMT 0)
"Healing take a longer time than most drugs."


excellent point 25 !
Posted 8/31/2013 4:06 PM (GMT 0)
Penang,

I, too, have found significant relief from Wild Oregano Oil.

Like 25 has said, you really have to listen to your body. RE: Probiotics-Yes, take them for sure and also add Primadolphilus Reuteri (inexpensive probiotic). From the data I have seen, it is important to take this as well when ingesting Wild Oregano Oil. Also, I am talking about Wild Oregano Oil drops with 85% Carvacrol, not regular Oregano Oil where the carvacrol content is not known. I found relief within a few days but know it will take a while to heal and will continue to take it daily.

It is clear that this is a critical piece of the UC treatment puzzle for me. If you would have told me 2 weeks ago that my situation would have improved to the point it is today, I would have laughed. I have learned to NOT get cocky and think I have figured this disease out, because things can change. I am thankful to this forum.

Best...
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