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Posted 8/18/2013 9:13 PM (GMT 0)
Eat the green banans as green as tolerable. There is a small window of time between when the bananas are too green to eat (you'll know when you try one too green, trust me) and when they are ripe. That's the tough part about doing rs with bananas. But you can get green plantains and slice them up and dry them out and they are ok.
I am trying the beans, they are giving me some gas discomfort, which is bad because I never know if its safe to fart, but I am going to try and power through and see if the gas subsides. The beans are super easy and, for me anyway, I can eat them with little to no preparation happily. I like beans.
Posted 8/19/2013 1:56 AM (GMT 0)
Well -the beans didn't do me in, nor give me gas... but for me I'll know more after a day or two. I seem to be in a slight flare already anyway - but no out of control which I think this amino acid treatment is keeping me from getting to bad - but at the same time I'm not great.

In any case I think they may have actually helped somewhat.

I'd be cautious though for someone to try this with being on meds as well. It always a tough call, to try something new hoping it work or to stay away to avoid a flare...

Stupid darn disease.
Posted 8/19/2013 5:32 AM (GMT 0)
I saw the GREENEST bananas at the store the other day - holy moly they were glowing ! reminded me of jim carey as the Grinch ! he was one green dude !
Posted 8/19/2013 2:43 PM (GMT 0)
This looks like a promising way to get RS via green bananas that were harvested very green

www.wedoglutenfree.com/

"Our banana flour is made from 100% all natural green bananas"

"These fruits are one of a handful of foods containing RS 2 , an important form of resistant starch. Resistant starches, unlike normal starches, are not digested in the small intestine, providing numerous benefits including preventing colon cancer and diabetes, promoting of weight loss, and boosting the immune system. Currently, western diets are getting only 3-7 grams of resistant starch each day, falling well short of the recommended amount of 15-20 grams (Brown 2004). WEDO Banana flour has 82 grams of RS 2 in each package, making it an essential addition to a healthy diet."

If beans give you gas just cut way way back until gas is minimal and move up each week, kind of tapering up instead of tapering down.

I went 3-4 days without any beans, seems I went from tubular stools to 'parts' so got some this morning with eggs.

I think 3 spoons of beans 2-3 times a day is all that is needed to get things improving. Maintenance seems to be a side every other day, and a side being 10 spoonfuls.
Posted 8/19/2013 3:43 PM (GMT 0)
Good advice, taper up. I'll try that. I ate an entire can of beans yesterday, too much. Two spoons today, I imagine that wont give me any trouble.
The wedo green banana flour looks great, got any idea when that is going to be available?
Posted 8/19/2013 7:01 PM (GMT 0)

Gonk said...
Good advice, taper up. I'll try that. I ate an entire can of beans yesterday, too much. Two spoons today, I imagine that wont give me any trouble.
The wedo green banana flour looks great, got any idea when that is going to be available?

Supposed to be tasteless.

Kinda weird I did not notice they are in pre-order but expected shipment in June.

"We are very excited to announce that our first shipment of flour will be arriving in the middle of June from the Philippines. "

I do not understand the pricing on this website but they appear to sell it.

www.teebrasil.com/en/slim-healthy/152-green-banana-flour-200g.html
Posted 8/19/2013 7:29 PM (GMT 0)
Looks interesting, Aguy but I really like real green bananas in a smoothie. They work great and are easy to deal with-just buy them green and put them in the fridge so they dont ripen. They make for a great smoothie when cold. Keep us posted on the flour-I am keen to read the ingredients.

Best...
Posted 8/21/2013 3:09 AM (GMT 0)

protocolteck said...
Looks interesting, Aguy but I really like real green bananas in a smoothie. They work great and are easy to deal with-just buy them green and put them in the fridge so they dont ripen. They make for a great smoothie when cold. Keep us posted on the flour-I am keen to read the ingredients.

Best...

I will try the smoothie :)

I see your a Mountain Runner and Level 1 Crossfit Athlete.

I had to 'school' the boys that hang around with my daughter and her friends Sunday. They saw me with my 30 year old skateboard and said 'be careful'.

So I did a handstand down the street to the end of the block on the old board slaloming this way and that completely inverted with good form, legs straight back arched, feet together. They were speechless.

Not bad for 49.5 years of age on two rebuilt shoulders, formerly paralyzed in the ICU from a stroke and hospitalized twice this year already. Not sure how long I can do that so my daughter filmed it for my senior years.

:)
Posted 8/21/2013 2:31 PM (GMT 0)
aguywithuc, Doesnt sugary foods not act just about the exact opposite as RS? Rs feeds good bacteria while sugar which is digested in the colon alike RS feeds bad bacteria. I bet you would be even better off than you are if you just cold dropped the dang sugar! I also think carbs which also mostly digested in the colon as sugars contribute to bad bacteria.

For me I stay away from simple sugars like the plague and eat complex sugars like fruit (green bananas) and have very limited breads and pastas if any at all. I do beleive that food can help us regain our population of good bacteria naturally. If you eat the stuff that feeds the bad bacteria I think it is very counterproductive.

I beleive that at least some of us or perhaps all of us had a mass die off of the good bacteria leaving the bad to thrive. The only way that we can logically make it right it to start over per say. When we are born we are sterile and take in bacteria naturally via air food hands etc over time..The challenge is I beleive anyways is starting over when your older and have a base of bad bacteria to work with and minimun good bacteria..somehow we need to stay on track to keep the bad down and repopulate the good until the "balance is restored"..

This of course is the hard part. But this is what I feel needs to be done and at this time other than FT we have the same tools available as we did when we were born. Food, air and regular bacteria ingested daily over a long period of time to get back that "balance"..And of couse there is FT. And dare I say som sort of "poop" pill in the future..?

Go RS ! Eat healthy by feeding good bacteria and starving bad. This may be why SCD works but may take longer for some than others to see changes. If we are consistant maybe just maybe we can get rid of the "condition" of imbalance..

Post Edited (twiggs) : 8/21/2013 10:23:36 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/21/2013 3:35 PM (GMT 0)
Thats awesome, Aguy ! I love to hear that stuff and glad to see you schooled the young guys. I love skateboarding (and most all other extreme sports) but I can't do headstands :)

Re:Green Banana Smoothies

I also use V8 Slash Diet tropical juice (8 grams sugar in 64/oz), Psyllium Seed Powder, Chia seeds, Ceylon Cinnamon, Biochem Whey protein and ice.

Best...
Posted 8/22/2013 4:55 PM (GMT 0)
"V8 Slash Diet tropical juice"

I will have to try that.

I found that stopping the RS navy beans for 3-4 days resulted in having to sort of 'taper-up' again or taking them with keefir and vls#3 and another probiotic all at once was foolish. But I did get gassy so skipped it yesterday and will have a moderate amount today and each day over the weekend.

I think it is good to have them with other food a little bit in more than one meal if possible. Too much all at once does push the limit if your not used to it, but that changes quickly for me - key is not to abandon it like I did in the spring.
Posted 8/22/2013 6:05 PM (GMT 0)
I actually stumbled across Navy Bean Pasta in spaghetti type form fizzuli or whatever the spirally things are called.

Only ingredient listed is Navy Beans. There's a local lady around here that makes it. Anyway, though being I could cook it up, put it in the fridge and use it for tuna and pasta salad or spaghetti as long as the noodles are cold. Might be good and a change up from eating bean salad and such.
Posted 8/22/2013 9:22 PM (GMT 0)
The tapering up with the beans has been working - no gas or discomfort. Started at two large spoonfuls, now four.
I also started a new probiotic about a week ago - prescript assist - and either this or the rs or the two together have been working for me. Less trips to the bathroom, much less urgency - except for the other day when I overdid it with the beans. Other than that, pretty good!
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