Help with WOO & Thyme Oil Protocol

Hi - just looking for some guidance if anyone can help.

I started Jinni's WOO Protocol some time ago, which has helped keep me in remission for almost a year now. However, I started noticing some very mild symptoms recently. Occasional loose stool and gurgling, etc.

I just bought another bottle of Wild Oregano Oil, along with a bottle of Thyme oil as i read about the combination of these two oils in other threads on here. I know at least one of the members on here tried this protocol in pill form but I'm going to take them in droplets (2 hours after food or 30 mins before). Currently, I'm just on 10 drops of WOO 2 or 3 times a day. Does anyone know how many drops of Thyme Oil I should be taking with that?

I'll likely be choosing some good probiotics to go with these as well as I do know that WOO kills off good as well as bad bacteria.

Kev

Cheers Mark. I've started with 4 drops of Thyme in addition to the 10 drops of WOO. I've been symptom free for a year since I started treating it like an infection. I also take powdered vitamin C in water several times a day.

I like your posts a lot, the thinking is if we can kill off enough of the pathogens then the cycle of mucosal breakdown and inflammation will also come to an end.

Hopefully, adding the Thyme will be enough to prevent symptoms coming back. I have Qing Dai as a backup for a flare, as it's antimcrobial as well as anti inflammatory. Any thoughts?

I will thanks, this is my second day on the combo. Very early to see if any thing has happened yet obviously but nothing has worsened, which is always good!

I was diagnosed with pancolitis almost 3 years ago. I only take mesalazine, 4.8g/day since the condition is mild compared to what a lot of people go through. I supplement with fish oil, glutamine and Vit C.

So far, I've had about 1 flare per year, always around the same time apart. I read an article about the life cycle of certain opportunisic pathogens in the gut and thats what originally got me thinking along these lines. Any advice you can give me is much appreciated.

Well, it's the carvacrol that does the majority of the work against bacteria. Somewhere in all my stuff I have a paper where they subjected various bacteria (pathogenic gram-negative so double wall) to carvacrol and then viewed the bacteria under an electron microscope. What they found was that the bacteria became odd shaped (distorted) and appeared to "spill out" their cellular contents. So this shows that carvacrol disrupts their membrane. Though it is not known exactly how. More so it was low concentrations of carvacrol.

That being said, carvacrol also appears to interfere with the NfKB pathway. So it shows anti-inflammatory properties - again even at low concentration.

So the higher the carvacrol content the more potent it would be. As for the studies they sometimes use isolated or pure carvacrol and sometimes full oil or natural oil.

Nothing would be wrong with 70%, it just might not work as good as 80-85%.

EDIT: I should also mention that at low dosage (which is roughly the 10+ drops 3x daily) it's actually ineffective at damaging certain probiotic bacteria like Bifo and Lacto bacteria. So this makes it quite unique.

EDIT EDIT: Also it certainly didn't cure me, but when combined with Imuran threw me into a remission like I've never felt before. So this has me extremely intrigued. Also there was lot's of bad before getting really good. Up's and down's.

EDIT, EDIT, EDIT, haha - Also it seems to work better for things like Pancolitis etc versus a diagnosis of straight, full blown Ulcerative Colitis for some weird reason. Most with Pancolitis seem to heal pretty fast on it, some never returning to the forum again... or so far. Crazy. Awesome and lucky for them though!

Post Edited (Canada Mark) : 6/28/2014 10:14:42 PM (GMT-6)

Thought I'd check in after 5 days starting the Thyme and WOO combo. Gurgling has stopped and things are starting to firm up. I was only having 1 BM per day before, which is normal for me and that's continuing just fine. Could be psychological at this stage but I do feel a lot more alert.

Kev

That is awesome kevin. I say it all the time, I feel so much more energetic and not tired and worn out, I think you call it more alert. Even for the prior 7 years having UC I never have felt this good when in remission, I was always tired feeling like I need a nap. Now after months on the WOO I feel great, so I don't think it is psychological. I think both of us have an yeast issue or some other kind of bacteria overgrowth that the WOO just happens to nip in the bud.

Hey Kevin that's great news! Hopefully you will continue - best of luck. Even a little relief makes it worth trying to be honest.

Sounds like you might be one more "Check" in the WOO seems to help Pancolitis Fast column... ha.

Hey Kevin - Can you do us a favour and if you get into remission (fingers crossed) can you let us know how you're doing from time to time - like if you stop taking it, and start to feel a little discomfort to you start taking it again till you feel better type thing.

There's a couple of people that stated taking it and we never heard from them again... hopefully this is a good thing! Not anything bad that happened to them.

Anyway just wanted to ask that as it helps others tremendously, like the FT threads where people let us know if they return to it when symptoms appear again and such.

Another quick question on this topic: is it normal to get worse before getting better on this stuff? If so, how long do you tend to trend down for? A few days, a few weeks, etc? Thanks again.

@CM - Thanks for the previous answer : )