Doses of cinnamon oil and oil of oregano, thyme oil

And if I may add to the question,
what products did you use? Please link them here.

OregaSupreme www.healthfirst.ca/productOverview.aspx

Because it has both woo and thyme. 1 gelcap 3x daily.

For Cinnamon Oil I make my own - I just get an empty gelatine capsule and I add 3-6 drops, put the cap on and swallow away. You can do the same with WOO/Thyme in liquid form.

Cinnamon can be tough on me so I do it for short periods then back off.

1) I don't make the oil, I buy it - along with empty capsules that you can get at any health store. Then I just open the capsule, add the drops, close it and swallow away. I think I use double zero "00" size but maybe it's single zero capsules. There's lot's of room in them.

2) Good question - I have no idea to be honest. I do take my last WOO/Thyme dose around 5pm just before or after dinner. Then I take L.reuteri at night before I go to bed. Supposedly, and there's a paper out there that shows Lactobacteria are not effected by WOO/Thymol etc until you get very, very high concentrations, which is far more that one would expose them to this way. So they'll be fine along with the others I'd imagine.

To be honest I gave up on Probiotics except for L.reuteri and L.Planetarum - I may have spelled them incorrectly - along with regular old plain balkan yogurt (thermopiles and bulgaris). They are the only ones I see benefit from. All the other either kill me, or show no effect. So I became tired of spending money on them.

PS - I really find the Cinnamon Oil tough on my gut, so sometimes I only take it once a day for a while or sometimes 3x daily for a few days then stop. I bounce around with it, but the WOO/Thyme I am very, very religious about taking... I find to much Cinamon Oil can both trigger a BM, and actually give me a bit of D. So over time I have gotten good at what works and what doesn't - for me at least.

Yes - At the time I was heading towards a major flare. I think if memory serves I did not start the WOO/Thyme until I was already tarpapered halfway or more on Pred. In fact I know I didn't cause I was scarred to mix all this stuff together and my GI wanted to do blood work when I started the WOO - he's a cool guy... I'd have to look back but I'm quite sure I actually started it when my symptoms returned on a lower dose of Pred if not off pred all together - I stop responding to pred at 20-30mg/daily and mucus, blood and such always returns at this time. This time I did do a very long double course though.

That was my plan - a double length course of pred cause it's supposed to thicken up the mucus, Imuran because at that time I was thinking of the effects on Adherent Invasive Ecoli (AIEC), and WOO/Thyme because of it's effect on them. I hand't learned about MAP much and didn't realize that the very same thing should be highly effective against that as well. - No cure in any way but perhaps a way to keep the worst of the symptoms at bay.

That being said - People with Crohn's that "may" have MAP have an inability to "see" them. Or their immune system cannot see the infection for one reason or another. For people with UC that "may" have MAP - maybe it's a different story and they can be seen, but perhaps they cannot be cleared or dealt with. Or they are just causing problems.

Who knows...

If you want, just shoot me an email I'll send the forms I used to keep track of progress. It was just a simple zero month and six month assessment but the improvements were pretty crazy. I emailed it to Old Mike once. I don't know how to post a document (PDF) on here.


Also please do remember that I tracked this with other people on here at one point and it seems most of the people with things like pan colitis and such found success, but not many with Ulcerative-Colitis or true UC... But like I mentioned on the other post, maybe they didn't stick with it long enough - many gave up after say two weeks with no results versus trying for two months.

Again, who knows... But perhaps it's worth a shot. No guarantee's though but sure would be nice to see others feel the relief and ability to get back to life like I am experiencing. These diseases sure take their toll.

Thanks for a detailed reply, Mark.

Your mail ID is not visible in the profile. You can send me those forms on noelmathur at gmail