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Posted 1/2/2016 12:12 PM (GMT 0)
I'm searching for an affordable yet appropriate probiotic. I've had varying success in the past with VSL but not enough to make me want to try it again.

Came across Elixa. There doesn't appear to be any studies associated with it but it seems the benefit is only taking it for 6 days. It's about $50 CDN.

I'm wondering if my disease may be more responsive to probiotics at this time when my flare is pretty minor (in comparison to what it was). I'm currently at 6 times, no b or m. Just urgency.

Anyone tried it?

Thanks
Posted 1/2/2016 7:09 PM (GMT 0)
i've bumped the thread started by therearemiracles, let's see what she thinks about Elixa :)
Posted 1/2/2016 8:45 PM (GMT 0)
Well is has Plantarum and Rheuteri, both have gotten good reviews on here. I use Rheuteri from time to time when taking antibiotics for whatever reason (strep recently). For me personally the issue would be the amount of bifobacteria in this one. I have terrible reactions to them, or at least I did when I was ill. Perhaps that would be different now.

A possible alternative would simply be something like this if you can tolerate lactose:
www.liberte.ca/en/products/organic-non-effervescent-strawberry-kefir#

It has the following:
S. thermophilus
L. bugaricus
L. casei
L. acidophilus
B. Lactis
L. Rhamnosus
L. Cremoris
L. Diacetylactis
Leuconostoc Cremoris
L. Lactis

(Taken from the back of the bottle)

Anyways - you can get it at Zerh's and Sobey's around you for about $6 a bottle. It says 1 cup (250ml) has 2 billion bacteria. There's one bifo bacteria in it but it does not seem to bother me.

Might be a cheaper option to try first and see how your body likes/responds to probiotics and then go from there.
Posted 1/2/2016 9:17 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Canada! I wrote to the makers of Elxia. Will forward you his response via email. Unsure about yogurt...I'm pretty unsure about most things. Was also thinking about just trying Rheuteri on it's own. How did you know you were sensitive to bifobacteria?

Yes Ewa, was hoping for a follow up from Miracles:) Hopefully it's good news!
Posted 1/2/2016 10:52 PM (GMT 0)
Just trial and error from trying lots of probiotics. After a while I noticed if bifo bacteria listed were in high amounts, I would have a bad reaction. Sometimes it was immediate, sometimes it was a few days after. Then I made home made yogurt with a starter that had bifo bacteria and had a terrible reaction, yet if I make home made yogurt with only Lacto bacteria I am fine.

I gave up on them eventually while I was ill. It was so expensive and ultimately they caused me more problems then they did good. Rheuteri being the only one I could always tolerate which I just get at Shoppers Drug Mart form behind the pharmacy counter. BioGia.

I think everyone is going to be highly different as to what probiotics their guts like and do not like.

Over time I realized that types of food was far more important to the way I felt and with what was going on inside me versus trying to deal with it using probiotics.
Posted 1/2/2016 11:42 PM (GMT 0)
I was fine for four days then seemed like I was having more mud like poop , not water diarreah but stinky muddy poo. Still have it. It did not make a differences my symptoms per say , I mean, nothing really improve unfortunately .
Posted 1/3/2016 12:17 AM (GMT 0)
thanks for the info :)
Posted 1/3/2016 4:02 PM (GMT 0)

therearemiracles said...
I was fine for four days then seemed like I was having more mud like poop , not water diarreah but stinky muddy poo. Still have it. It did not make a differences my symptoms per say , I mean, nothing really improve unfortunately .

Thanks miracles. Sorry to hear about his. Although maybe that's a sign of bacterial die off? I did write to the makers....there are no formal studies for Elixa, and they only claim that probiotics are beneficial to overall health, nothing else.

Have you considered asking your GI about IVIG?
Posted 1/3/2016 4:12 PM (GMT 0)
Probiotics are probably really good for someone healthy. I have a cold now :( haven't had one in two years! So much for probiotics boosting my immune system. I'm 9 days off Elixa , no let up on the diarrhea. Could it have thrown off my bacteria system in my gut? They were strong probiotics. I'm on rafaximin again for a week, to calm down the diarreah,mucus,blood ....this antibiotic seems to help. What is IVIG? I tied the search engine above and didn't get anything.
Posted 1/3/2016 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
On my GI's recommendation, I've been taking Align for three years now. I was very skeptical of a readily-available product such as this helping, but it really has helped more than any other probiotic I've ever taken. If I forget to take it for a few days, I see a definite change in my stools. They get much mushier and larger, and I get crampy pains. Before I'd always taken expensive, exotic probiotics with no noticible improvement. VSL #3 gave me terrible cramping and gas, even in low doses.

As with everything else, we're all different I guess.
Posted 1/9/2016 1:48 PM (GMT 0)
So There has been one significant channe since doing that 6 day course of Elixa and that is my acid reflux went away. On day two of the course it was really bad and I was going to quit but I said to myself I can finish just 6 days and I did , I have not had any problems with burning in my throat or guts. I can actually eat salads now.
This week I got a cold and started just one 500 mg of cipro to help keep a sinus infection away and it worked , my cold is gone! I feel great!!!
My blood is better too! So I'm sticking with one cipro in addition to my asacol HD , vitamin A, iron supplements . My GI said it was ok and I could rotate out antibiotics like flagyl or rafaxamin.
I just need to manage my symptoms since I haven't had remission in 11 years and I've tried a lot of things.
Elixa recommends a follow up 6days course after four weeks. I'm going to do it. It's $ 40.00. It took away my acid reflux, my bowels are back under control to the help of cipro, I do think now it helped.
Posted 1/9/2016 2:32 PM (GMT 0)
"Over time I realized that types of food was far more important to the way I felt and with what was going on inside me versus trying to deal with it using probiotics."


i now look at probiotics like i've always looked at meds = they are crisis management - nothing more - i agree that food is a much better way to keep the microbiomies happy !


although i have been doing this stuff lately - quite tasty in a delicious sort of way yeah

www.nancysyogurt.com/index.php/products/kefir
Posted 1/9/2016 2:35 PM (GMT 0)

therearemiracles said...
So There has been one significant channe since doing that 6 day course of Elixa and that is my acid reflux went away. On day two of the course it was really bad and I was going to quit but I said to myself I can finish just 6 days and I did , I have not had any problems with burning in my throat or guts. I can actually eat salads now.
This week I got a cold and started just one 500 mg of cipro to help keep a sinus infection away and it worked , my cold is gone! I feel great!!!
My blood is better too! So I'm sticking with one cipro in addition to my asacol HD , vitamin A, iron supplements . My GI said it was ok and I could rotate out antibiotics like flagyl or rafaxamin.
I just need to manage my symptoms since I haven't had remission in 11 years and I've tried a lot of things.
Elixa recommends a follow up 6days course after four weeks. I'm going to do it. It's $ 40.00. It took away my acid reflux, my bowels are back under control to the help of cipro, I do think now it helped.


good job sticking with it thereare - nice that it's helping -
Posted 1/9/2016 2:37 PM (GMT 0)
I'm feeling awesome with just eating salads (no tomato) eggs, fruit but before I couldn't even handle a salad without get bloated . Well it's only day three of no sugar and no processed foods. I love salad so I hope it continues, I will keep you posted. Even after I do the second course if probiotics.
Posted 1/9/2016 2:48 PM (GMT 0)
hay, if i couldn't eat salad, you might as well shoot me - i've been lucky that for the most part, they've always agreed with my gut -
Posted 1/9/2016 11:22 PM (GMT 0)
so you two must be definitely nicer than me because salad is still refusing to cooperate with me lol
a propos elixa - do you think that it was the cause of your diarrhea or maybe it was caused by some kind of viral infection that attacked you coincidentally at the same time? Glad to hear you've got it over! :)
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