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Posted 9/1/2011 3:14 AM (GMT 0)
Hi, please have a look at my symptoms and let me know if it sounds familiar or like something else.

I've been tested for H Pylori, Celiac (even did a gluten free diet for a month), Thyroid (TSH)

I get NO heartburn.
feel nausea and get the feel like something is coming up my throat. Burp a lot. These seem to be my classic GERD symptoms.
Took Ranitidine and Omeprazole, but they didn't seem to help me much.
I don't seem to feel worse when sleeping at night or in the morning, if anything I feel a little better at these times.

My nausea gets better when I'm eating, and usually doesn't start until a few hours after I eat. This led me to think it might be a duodenal ulcer, but with no H. Pylori it may be unlikely... Was wondering if others with reflux feel better when they eat?

Thanks.
Posted 9/1/2011 4:20 AM (GMT 0)
What test did you use for the h pylori?

I have some what similar symptoms but I have sore throats at times and throat clearing.

It can be a parasite or bacteria in your intestines...

Posted 9/1/2011 4:22 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for your response. For H Pylori I had the blood test, which I hear is fairly accurate.
Posted 9/1/2011 5:20 AM (GMT 0)
It depends which one you used if you suspect h pylori or ulcers then there is a possibility you may have h pylori. If you ran other tests and you ruled out many other things then h pylori can be a culprit.

Try doing a stool test for h pylori and parasites and bacteria.

If everything is normal like your LES and normal stomach acid then demand more thorough tests, become your own doctor.
Posted 9/1/2011 5:50 AM (GMT 0)
I would definitely at this point push for a gastroscopy - that's really one of the only definitive ways to diagnose any type of ulcer.
Posted 9/1/2011 7:33 AM (GMT 0)
Yes, I've always had to eat to relieve my symptoms, both off and on drugs. Eating generally makes me feel better, especially the nausea. My nausea is worse first thing in the morning when my stomach has been empty. In some ways it is like my pregnancy nausea, which was relieved totally by Zantac and I was told that was reflux back then. So I think it's possible to have regular GERD but with those symptoms, as that is what mine turned out to be. I have gastritis additionally and I wonder if that causes the nausea. I eventually relieved the nausea by taking the ppi at night: taking it before breakfast did nothing for me at all.

Blood tests for H Pylori can be unreliable and here in the UK they have changed over to stool test. If you've already been taking a ppi though, that can give you a false negative result.

I think, but not totally sure, that it's the gastritis that gives me the sensation of false hunger. I also found Omeprazole made that symptom worse and I had constant hunger on that drug - I now take Lansoprazole and things are quite a lot better.

MMM
Posted 9/2/2011 2:13 AM (GMT 0)
A scope would be the best thing, you could have a lot checked and looked at all at once. Do be proactive with your own health. Doctors just aren't paying much attention these days it seems.
Posted 9/3/2011 4:49 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the replies. I am supposed to see a GI for a potential scoping.. but they say its 3-6 months just to get an appointment. So I'm stuck waiting.
I had some stool tests for bacteria/parasites I believe which found nothing. Also, it's been about 5 months that I've had symptoms. I thought the blood test for H Pylori was pretty accurate and would only give false positives not false negatives due to the antibodies being present if you are currently or ever in the past have been infected, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted 9/3/2011 5:34 AM (GMT 0)
One thing you have to remember though, if you are burping a lot and you ruled out other GERD or physical damage like the LES then its something below the esophagus.

It is either in the intestines small or large. It may be probiotics don't always rely on the test, research and see how good are the tests. Keep testing, I mean if you have symptoms and are not feeling better than your body is telling you something is wrong.

Burping is my main symptom and I am currently trying to get rid of h pylori. Keep testing and monitor you supplement levels like vitamins levels.

 

Posted 9/3/2011 11:59 AM (GMT 0)
You definitely get false negatives if you've been on ppis at the time of the test: you have to be off them for 2 weeks prior to testing. I had a borderline test, then a negative one for Helicobacter. But I was on Omeprazole at the time. I'm not convinced that I don't have it, especially as I have none of the typical reasons to have reflux (normal weight, don't drink alcohol, never smoked, and have always had a very non-indulgent diet!). But proving it is tricky; biopsy is supposed to be reliable. What annoyed me is that they wouldn't give me a trial of eradication therapy just in case it is Helicobacter.

When you have your scope they can do biopsy for Helicobacter and coeliac disease - make sure they get that done at the same time for you!

MMM
Posted 9/3/2011 5:30 PM (GMT 0)
The H pylori test was before the PPI but it was during the time I was taking Ranitidine(Zantac).
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