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Posted 3/12/2013 5:28 PM (GMT 0)
Hi there,

A thought...

I am curious if having a small bottle of Alkaline water would be of any benefit to someone with just acid reflux, with meals, as to potentiate the effects of the PPI. Or is the amount of Alkalinity so small that it would only help with the Pepsin issues of LPR and not "adjustng" the Ph level of the acid to a less acidic state?

Just thinking of a more natural way to lower gastric acid in between PPI dose(s), not introducing more meds.

Thanks,

GM :-)

Posted 3/12/2013 6:02 PM (GMT 0)
GM
We have a 16 oz bottle of 'regular' water and add 1/4 teaspoon of Arnhammer bicarbonate and that helps,-- but go lighter on salt on foods. Cheap way for alkaline water. Worth a try between meals & when you feel the symptoms.
Posted 3/12/2013 7:09 PM (GMT 0)
Evamore water has helped me
Posted 3/12/2013 8:19 PM (GMT 0)
Hi ericapeace2000 (erica!):

Thanks for the tip on Evamore - here is the link... Dr. Koufman recommends it, eh...

http://www.evamor.com/

I want to see if I could obtain a couple of bottles locally, but their website is flaky.

Much appreciated,

Gastricman :-)

Posted 3/12/2013 8:35 PM (GMT 0)
Hi JPT,

Interesting study!

http://www.evamor.com/pdf/koufman_1242.pdf

I'm going to pick up a few bottles of this, as it is supposedly sold in my area.

The representaive from evamor told me that the "dosage" is 64 ounces/day or 1.89 liters/day for two weeks.

Do you agree with that?

In any case, it certainly can't hurt to try!

Thanks,

GM :-)

Posted 3/12/2013 9:01 PM (GMT 0)
GM,

Hey this is Kitt.   Over the many years alkaline waters comes up from time to time.  Your have the people that feels it works and than all the ones that do not.

I have no personal opinion but I am going to post a link to this article :

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-alkaline-water.htm

Hope this helps you in some small way.

 

Posted 3/12/2013 9:23 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Kitt,

Thanks for your "balancing" link.

Both sides have to be weighed. In my case, I know that surgery will be the only option but I am really trying to avoid it until the Linx and (eventually) EndoStim are proven. If not there is the NF which I also have to consider.

I'm going to try the water for a week and monitor. I'm already susceptible to gastric infections with the PPI, but I don't think that a small bit of alkalinity will really hurt. At least that's what I think. ;)

Regards,

GM :-)

Posted 3/16/2013 8:26 PM (GMT 0)
So - what do you do with the alkaline water? Just drink it, if so how much a day?

Thanks,
JDT
Posted 3/30/2014 6:59 PM (GMT 0)
How much can one drink safely a day of this alkaline water?
Posted 3/30/2014 7:57 PM (GMT 0)
I drink a bottle of Fiji a day. Seems to help, but I found a new water called AlkaLife-10 that has a pH of 10. Definitely gonna give that a go. Should work well with my Paleo Template diet as well. Anyway, their site promotes 5 glasses a day for maximum benefit.

Post Edited (r0maalan) : 3/30/2014 2:04:46 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 3/30/2014 8:18 PM (GMT 0)
is there any benefit to drinking alkaline water versus just drinking water with some baking soda in it?
Posted 3/30/2014 9:35 PM (GMT 0)
You just have to watch the sodium aspect of it. If you have high blood pressure, you'll have to make sure you include that amount in your daily intake.
Posted 3/30/2014 11:13 PM (GMT 0)
Try Alkazone pH Alkaline Booster drops. 3-4 drops in 8 ounces of tap water works fine. Five glasses a day is recommended. Less expensive then buying the big jugs of water. Can carry in pocket or purse and use wherever you are. Always available. No sodium, check out on Amazon.

Being the skeptic that I am, I also purchased A2O water pH test drops $5.00) .put one drop in teaspoon of water to check the pH of your water. We tried it on the bottled waters. Evamor was as advertised. My tap was 7, and was 9 after adding few drops of Alkazone. What was interesting is to test your saliva pH. Upon rising in morning it was ph4. (Acidic). Later on it was ph7 kinda neutral. Kind of proved to me about night time acid reflux.
Alkazone drops must be diluted in water and shaken/stirred. Not consumed as is out of dropper. Don't drink the pH water test drops either. ( my family said I should say this).

Hope this helps. Wish y'all the best of health. This is a bad illness. Pat
Posted 3/30/2014 11:22 PM (GMT 0)
Pat, did you notice any improvement in your symptoms when using the Alkazone drops?
Posted 3/31/2014 12:10 AM (GMT 0)
The Alkazone pH drops help you feel generally better over long term.
It helps denature the pepsin that is aerosolized into throat area. Without it, the pepsin reactivates under pH of 8.
We feel it is an ongoing thing and --who knows-- is it all in my mind. We try anything and feel better.

Have u read Dr Kaufman article about high pH water. I'll be glad to post a link
Posted 3/31/2014 12:34 AM (GMT 0)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22844861

Alkaline water info
Posted 3/31/2014 1:45 PM (GMT 0)
Any negative side effects ever reported on high ph water?
Posted 3/31/2014 6:29 PM (GMT 0)
Pat, thx for the link, good info, i'll give it a try.
Posted 5/6/2014 5:15 AM (GMT 0)
Not all water is created equal.

You need drink with the peace of mind, and not drinking for better health and created another health problem.

There is a difference between alkaline and alkalised water:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-mUB2yiPzQ

I have friends with acid reflux, problem gone after drink Kangen Water. It is a medical device with ISO13485.
More info here if you like to find out more:-
https://www.facebook.com/KangenWaterSd501
Posted 5/6/2014 7:52 PM (GMT 0)
I had posted my own personal experience with hig ph water a few days ago.. i drank esentia and tru water both between 9 and 10.
I found it helped a lot with my throat and other gerd issues.
HOWEVER, after a year of drinking this type of water i started getting extremely dry mouth and tongue. I would wake up and drink some water and then my tongue would be like a desert. and last all day. it took me a while before i stopped the high ph water. what happened? My dry mouth and tongue got better. so, i went back on the water a fw weeks later and the same thing happened.. Very dry mouth tongue. very dry. so dry i was getting sores near the glands on my tongue.
after searching the web i found a you tube post where someone was explaining it works for a while but then can cause dehydration. and this was true for me. meaning the water would go right through me. his suggestion was to lower the ph and try it again. so i went out and bout REAL Water with a ph of 8 and so far i have not gotten the extreme dry cotton mouth/tongue.
I eat fairly well and take a ppi. I truly believe that high ph water can cause unwanted side effects such as dehydration. In my case i found this to be the case.
curious if others will find the same thing? its so new now and we will find out as the year(s) go on.
perhaps i was getting too alkaline? who knows but i will tread lightly and only drink a ph of 8. not higher. just my two cents.
Posted 5/7/2014 5:13 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the input Teacherman. I've been getting a dryness at the back of my mouth (tongue/throat area) and I was associating that with different foods I've been eating trying to figure it out. I use alkaline drops. I'm assuming since this doesn't happen all the time that my filtered tap water I drink may fluctuate in PH levels so that's why some days I feel it and other's I don't. I may just drop the amount of alkaline drops I am putting in the water and see if that helps.
Posted 5/8/2014 11:19 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Javery,

I have this same feeling, more in the mornings. I am only sucking on Slippery Elm Lozangers and DGLs. Is there anything else I can do to aliviate this? I hope there is..

I hope you have a good day!

Hugs
Posted 5/8/2014 11:43 AM (GMT 0)

Teacherman said...
I had posted my own personal experience with hig ph water a few days ago.. i drank esentia and tru water both between 9 and 10.
I found it helped a lot with my throat and other gerd issues.
HOWEVER, after a year of drinking this type of water i started getting extremely dry mouth and tongue. I would wake up and drink some water and then my tongue would be like a desert. and last all day. it took me a while before i stopped the high ph water. what happened? My dry mouth and tongue got better. so, i went back on the water a fw weeks later and the same thing happened.. Very dry mouth tongue. very dry. so dry i was getting sores near the glands on my tongue.
after searching the web i found a you tube post where someone was explaining it works for a while but then can cause dehydration. and this was true for me. meaning the water would go right through me. his suggestion was to lower the ph and try it again. so i went out and bout REAL Water with a ph of 8 and so far i have not gotten the extreme dry cotton mouth/tongue.
I eat fairly well and take a ppi. I truly believe that high ph water can cause unwanted side effects such as dehydration. In my case i found this to be the case.
curious if others will find the same thing? its so new now and we will find out as the year(s) go on.
perhaps i was getting too alkaline? who knows but i will tread lightly and only drink a ph of 8. not higher. just my two cents.

 

Hi Teacherman,

 

Thank you so much for your information. I was wondering if your throat continued to be better after not drinking this alkaline water?

 

Thank you and I hope you are getting better and better every day.

Posted 5/8/2014 2:13 PM (GMT 0)
My throat is much better now a days. I am drinking ph 8 but not a whole lot. Regular water is working fine for me now.
I did find that a baby asprin worked best on my throat. I take it with my oatmeal in the morning after my ppi.
But, the water did have good effects on the throat when I was struggling. Since I am not struggling now, I will drink regular water and mix in some ph 8.
So far no dry tongue or mouth since I stopped the super high ph 9 to 10
Posted 6/25/2014 4:50 PM (GMT 0)
Make sure the alkaline water is pure and not man made...by a special process... That defeats the whole idea.....evamor u know is safe....they don't have it in calif. But I buy it at amazon....no shipping charge.... 8.8 natural,spring
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