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Posted 6/9/2013 10:32 PM (GMT 0)
Gail: Yes, I also bought something called: Soothe Digest, it contains: Fennel, Anise, Caraway. I take it after dinner. I don't feel it help that much.
Posted 6/9/2013 10:49 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Viv,

I am taking 150 mg Zantac/day when I feel acid regurgitation, which is almost after every meal for hours. Zantac might control it but I still feel it very strongly. I was considering taking 2 Zantac/day but I really don't want to depend on medication again. I think it is rebound because it is pretty severe. Just don't know when it will die down. Where can I buy DGL tablets?

@Woes, I actually ordered some peppermint oil capsules. They are called "Pudin Hara". It is an Indian Ayurvedic medicine. I will let you know if it helps at all.
Posted 6/9/2013 10:59 PM (GMT 0)
DGL can be found on Amazon, the malted Chocolate wafers are quite tasty and you just chew them up, before meals (30 min) 3 X per day. One wafer 3 x per day I meant. Natural food stores also carry it. Make sure the peppermint caps are enertic coated. Don't know about taking peppermint and the DGL together? Fennel tea is also supposed to help with pain and cramping.
Posted 6/10/2013 12:08 AM (GMT 0)
T: I have been on Zantac 150mg since July 2012 and still I couldn't do without it. I don't want the burning or the acid backing up my throat. I am better but still not 100%. You might need to take the pills for awhile so your symptoms will improve then you can gradually reducing the pills. It might be better if you can see a naturopath doctor so he/she can show you how to change your diet + natural remedies this will certainly help improve your GERD symptoms. Just remember it takes time to feel better, it takes me close to a year. Many of us have lost weight at the beginning.
Posted 6/10/2013 12:15 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Viv, how many Zantac do you take a day? Btw, how long were you on ppis for- also, did you cut them off cold turkey? Sorry for so many questions- just trying to make sense of this insanity that is bowel problems. Sheesh.

Also, you are right, things will take time to heal. We have to be patient. It's a rough road but I strongly feel like it's way better than being on PPIs. Now that I look back on all those months I took PPIs blindly and trusted my doctors, I want to cry! But we'll get through this. I know we will!!!! Gonna try and look for a HomeoPathic/Naturo doc

@tummywoes, i am going to try the peppermint oil first since i already ordered it- want to see if it works at all and then gonna go to DGL. Thanks for the suggestion.


Best of luck to everyone,
T

Post Edited (thistooshallpass) : 6/9/2013 6:18:40 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/10/2013 1:22 AM (GMT 0)
T: I only take 1 before bedtime. I was on and off on PPIs for months at the time, the last time I was on them for 5 months. You might need to do elimination diet first to see which food trigger your gas problem. Don't worry about asking questions. I did go off cold turkey but I was taking Zantac and digestive enzymes instead. Good luck to you too.
Posted 6/11/2013 12:22 AM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone,

Went to the doc again today for some help with the pain in my gut!

He has called me in Bentyl for the spasms.  lowest dose 10mg.

Have any of you taken this drug?   I am not reading the pamphlet when I get it because it scares me to death!........

Please let me know if you have taken this and if it helped??????

Today  he said I could have a spastic colon ( oh great)

Posted 6/12/2013 12:21 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Tummywoes, I took that before a couple of times. My dr. told me to only take it when I feel like I have cramps or I am extremely bloated. Do not take it if it is not required. It is not as bad as the ppi drugs as far as i know. I think its just to treat IBS symptoms. I wouldnt worry too much- but let me know how it goes.

I tried a peppermint cap today- so the mint flowed up to my throat due to reflux apparently and my whol esophagus is minty burning right now. Great.

Please give me a good reason not to go back on ppis- I am losing faith!! shakehead

T
Posted 6/12/2013 1:21 AM (GMT 0)
T,

I am a bad one to ask about PPI's, I never took them.  Some of the other folks here are having a terrible time after stopping them with a rebound effect.

My Dr. also said there is a rebound from them. 

Well, I took one dose of the Bentyl yesterday evening, a dose around 10:30 this am, and plan to take another before bed.  My stomach has been much better today, way less pain and hardly any cramping......of course my appetite still sucks, but have to start eating more.   My rx says to take 1 before each meal or up to 3 per day.   I am not doing that many.  I refuse to read that pamphlet with the side effects, too scary!........I know from the pharmacist that they can cause constipation, just what I need, NOT!

Believe me I was ready to cave in to PPI also, if it would get rid of this pain.

 

Posted 6/12/2013 11:35 PM (GMT 0)
OK, where is everyone?????
Chris, EJ, Pink, have not seen you for a long time??????
Posted 6/14/2013 6:04 PM (GMT 0)
Update: total of 4wks on Zantac. 3wks @ 150mg and currently taking 75mg for a wk now. 2wks since I stopped Prevacid.

For the last 2wks, still getting the lightheaded / dizzyness from time to time but not as severe. Had one mild attack but overall been able to sleep at nights. Had couple of days with chest pain/pressure.

Had the Holter monitor removed last Saturday but won't get the results until another wk or so.
Posted 6/14/2013 7:51 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Gail, just thought I check in quickly.

I am doing ok. I am back at work and doing more. Hence, not much time to post but I will check in from time to time.

I have been PPI free for over a month. Still having some hearburn-like symptoms from time to time, but it's not too bad. Articles I've read says the acid rebound can last for almost 3 months so I am just being patient for now.

I fired my last GI doc and found one of the best in my area and I hope that he can give me some more insights. The only thing is that he is very popular and splits his time giving lectures and all, so I was not able to get an appointment with him until 7/31. (The GI doc I fired has open slots all the time interestingly enough).

Oh and of all the stuff I took, I think carafate helps the most.
Posted 6/14/2013 8:10 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Chris,

Thanks for checking in.  As you can see I am still having issues.

The Bentyl seems to be helping for the cramping, But trying to limit it to one per day (not 3 per day)  the side effects that are listed are pretty ugly.

The Bentyl makes me constipated, so back to the olive oil everyday.

At least I don't feel my stomach literally in knots.  I am so glad you are doing better and back to good ole work.  ;(   I have been stressing less since I made the firm decision to move back to orange county.

Please let me know what your new Doc says.  Should be interesting.

I miss all the others on the board and wonder what in the heck has happened to all of them????.......

How is your wife doing?  Hang in there and thanks again for the update.

Gail   

Posted 6/14/2013 9:09 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Gail,
I am still here just so tired of the throat symptom I still have. I made the appointment with my GP. I will ask her for PPIs, not sure when I will start another course of it! I just read a book called: Clean Gut by Alejandro Junger and it is quite interesting read. He has a 21-Day Clean Gut program. It's a bit similar to Fast Tract and I like all the breakfast shakes recipes he includes in this book. He said to try adding one to two servings a day of a fresh green juice or green smoothie for two weeks. I am going to try this first.
So when are you moving to orange county? I hope you find a right combination soon of what to take or eat.
Ed: Do you have throat symptom at all?

Chris: I am glad you found a better GI. Sometimes I feel we are just a number to them. Are you still taking supplements?

Wishing everyone a great weekend.
Posted 6/14/2013 10:37 PM (GMT 0)
 

Hi Viv, good to hear from you.

I know I post too much and probably repeat myself too.  I am sorry you have to go back on PPI's, but if they removed the awful symptoms, maybe you should?    I know I have thoughts all the time that maybe I should have taken the first rx the doctor gave me back in Feb. for protronics and maybe I would be better by now???

This new stuff is helping a little, and would probably help more if I took more doses during the day.  I just hate to be all groggy and spacey.

The food thing is still a mystery to me, some things don't even sound good to me.  If I could find the right combo of what to take for the constipation, that would be a start.  I have had pain all day today so far and I know it is from not going.  I even did a warm water enema this am, which only helped a tiny bit.  guess I am just plain full of it!  ;)

You have a good weekend too!

Posted 6/14/2013 10:41 PM (GMT 0)
Viv, I want to move back to OC right after Xmas, so it's not that far away.......the months go by so quickly.
Posted 6/14/2013 11:37 PM (GMT 0)

VivianL said...

Ed: Do you have throat symptom at all?

Yes, from time to time. I get this feeling like something is stuck in my throat and have a hard time swallowing my own saliva. would this be a case where acid is coming back up?

Also, I remembered the GI dr was checking inside of my throat and ask if i had a sore throat which i didn't.

Well, besides that. I do have a thyroid problem and been taking synthroid for 5/6 yrs.

Post Edited (ed@mtl) : 6/14/2013 5:45:55 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/15/2013 12:42 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Chris, Ed,

I am new here and was wondering when you stopped taking PPIs, do you feel like the food comes up into your food pipe? I felt that immensely during the first week. Today is day 14 and I still feel it.

Thanks for all your help guys,
T
Posted 6/15/2013 2:02 PM (GMT 0)
I went cold turkey and I suffered (lightheaded/dizzy, stomach pain, chest tightness and felt something was stuck in my throat) for 4/5 days (not in a row), then got better. But at the same time, I was taking Zantac at nights.

I still get all of these symptoms but not as often. Mostly, chest tightness, stomach pain (actually feels like something is stuck there) and lightheaded/dizzy.

I'm more concern with the chest tightness. Reason being, when I had the endo, everything check out ok, no damages, no bacteria, no cancerous cells.

At the moment, I'm trying a high protein diet.

Update: something weird just happen. just finish lunch and started having chest tightness. for some reason I decided to take two pills of the Betaine Hydrochloride (HCL). After 10mins, started feeling better. Could it be that I have low acid during day time and too much at night?

I will try this again tomorrow and see what happens.

Update: just had dinner and again started to have chest tightness. this time i took 1 pill of the Betaine Hydrochloride (HCL) and again, after 10mins felt better. I dunno, is it heartburn that i have? because the chest tightness is more to the left side.

Post Edited (ed@mtl) : 6/15/2013 3:23:03 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/15/2013 10:01 PM (GMT 0)
tummywoes - here I am and hoping you would be willing to start a new part to this thread. 

I will lock this part down once the new part is going strong.  I know how much you are learning from one another.

 

Be well,

Kitt

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