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Posted 12/29/2014 9:04 AM (GMT 0)
Hey guys, Just something Ive been wondering about.

Had a nissen 6 months ago for Hiatal hernia and opening in diaphragm.
I was a big fan of the gym before the surgery and did lots of Boxing and cage fighting.

The last few weeks ive been starting to workout a little. 50 pushups here, 50 pushups there, lifting a few weights at home etc.

Then it occured to me if this was actualy a clever thing to do, as I was never told if there was anything I should avoid perminetley. but states many times online no strenuous exercise for 6 weeks following the surgery, even not to push hard on the toilet.
I dont know if they were talking perminently, or just a few weeks.

surley 6 months is sufficient enough time to heal, im not sore anymore from the surgery and physicaly feel more or less the same (apart from weight loss and other issues from surgery)

I hear allot of peoples wraps that come undone, or break for some reason. even when not working out every day or athelets like myself. How strong are these things?

Yesterday whilst doing my usual power Pushup workout, I was coming to the last few sets before Failiure (meaning - Arms shaking / numb, cant do any more and colapse to the floor ) and it suddenley poped into my head that, maybe im not suposed to work out anymore, and fear i might have poped a few stitches already as ive been pushing myself like an animal.

what do people think?

Should I stop?
would I have caused damage?
im not in any pain,

I would imagine the most common exercise people engage in after surgery is sex, however that is a more repetative exercise, similar to picking up something from the floor over and over again. When my training is both intense and very heavy lifting. I thought there might be some people out there in the same boat as me. and was wondering that too.


would working out damage the wrap, as I imagine intense strength exercise like power lifting, pushups etc puts allot of stress on the abdomen, like the stomach pushing up against the diaphragm.

anyone exercising too with a wrap feel free to post, or descuss about this topic.


have a great day guys

Post Edited (charliessjin) : 12/29/2014 2:32:45 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 12/29/2014 6:24 PM (GMT 0)
I've been babying myself and have become so weak.

While I can't really answer your question, I would say, "If it hurts, stop."
Posted 12/29/2014 7:06 PM (GMT 0)
While I usually follow the Crohn's Disease forum, I thought I would take a look here as well, since I seem to have major upper and GI issues. I had a Nissen fundo back in 2002 and everything was great. about 3 years ago, I started working with a personal trainer to get off the weight I had put on from Humira. The weight came off and I looked and felt great for a while but then started getting lots of reflux symptoms. A bunch of tests that my GI did including an endoscopy confirmed that the Nissen had become unwrapped. He could not say for certain ,but thought the excess pressure of lifting weights plus the other exercises had contributed. I would definitely double check with your surgeon or GI before continuing with a heavy duty work out regimen.
Posted 12/30/2014 12:26 AM (GMT 0)
Charlie I have not read all of your postings-- I assume you had only a hernia repair after reading your earlier note. Was Nissen done for reflux OR for hernia.

After a recent visit to a surgeon, he told us the hernia was caused by strenuous weight lifting. (Personal fitness trainer). He recommended a hernia repair with biological mesh that strengthens the area and that the mesh is absorbed by the body in about six months. He said he would not do a repair with just stitches. They don't last long and especially with excess pressure on the diaphragm. Might be a good question for your doctor.

Sounds like you are doing really well. In my mind I wouldn't give up that good feeling of health for strenuous till failure. Please be careful and don't push self to the point of failure. Check with doctor.
Posted 12/30/2014 3:46 AM (GMT 0)
Ahhh... Kinda in the same boat. I was thinking of getting in to mma. I've done judo and boxing in the past, but I don't think my wrap would hold if I got a good shot to the stomach. I think that overdoing it does hurt your wrap... mine gets tight if I push it hard. When I get around 120 pounds benching it does start to get tight, but I feel it most on ab workouts. I have lifted over 200 with it and have done pull ups...From my experience, I would say that heavy workouts like you are use to should be toned down but not stopped. I remember my doc saying that he expects my wrap to last 10 years, so I'm thinking that a nissen isn't a for sure thing... They can slip and loosen up over the years.

If you ever do start fighting again, let me know. I would be interested in how your stomach is affecting you.
Posted 12/30/2014 7:06 AM (GMT 0)
hey guys thanks for the replys!

Ive woke up today and im sore as hell. feel like I did a month post op, wheather thats because of agrivation or because ive blown the whole thing to bits I dont know, but I feel quite raw in my whole upper mid section where the wrap is > _ < No doubt the dicomfort will settle down in a few days. im unsure wheather im getting more reflux or not, as I get reflux anyway from the surgery due to other complications.

1039smooth

Hope you start to feel stronger soon, I know what its like, ive realy waisted away due to other problems from the surgery too.



Lisa430

Thanks for sharing your story.
im sorry to hear your wrap came undone.

Did you have a re-do?

Im going to try and contact the surgeons secretary and get a little info from the surgeon.




Pat Fill

To be honest its a bit of a long story, I had lots of Endoscopies etc and a hernia was never detected, but it was gettign lots of regurgutation. during the surgery they found a very small Hiatus hernia, but a very large opening in the diaphragm. Meanin at one time, or some times, the hernia could have been very big. but nothing ever showed up on any test I had.

Oh the mesh, ive heard of that, but im not sure if i have it or not, im going to try and find that out.
Ive had various problems form the surgery, the surgeon severd the nerves in my stomach, now I cant digest food too well any more, which is why my weight dropped so much. im trying for force myself to eat dispite the gastroparisis. I have a Bravo test PH study in March, im going to ask the GI dr to take a look at my wrap to see if its still in place.
I think ill be more careful in the future.



TheSiXness

Yeh, its true, mine was still tender if i was poke it a little.

Ive not lifted or benched as much as you since the surgery.

but if just knocking out pushups can have this effect, it eather means its too soon, or i realy should try and isolate muscle groups rather than pushups or dips that put pressure on the whole mid section or core.

mmmmm, im starting to regret this now, ****ing sore haha.
Posted 12/30/2014 5:23 PM (GMT 0)
I had a slight tear in my diaphragm during surgery which is more common in older folks. I have mesh there.
Posted 1/14/2021 5:13 AM (GMT 0)
Any updates here anyone? Very interested in hearing how your wraps help up after martial arts, I would really like to know.
Posted 1/14/2021 11:44 AM (GMT 0)
Ideng:

You are responding to a thread that's over 6 years old. You might want to start your own thread to get more responses, although I must warn you that the Boards are extremely slow. I don't have any answers for you, but what did you surgeon say about practicing martial arts post surgery?

Sharon
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